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WHY THE YEARLY TRILLION DOLLAR LOOTING IS NOT QUESTIONED

Unread postby pubjohn47 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:11 am

THE UPDATE BELOW IS CURRENT AS OF .................. FRIDAY FEBRUARY 26, 2010 :




The update below has old information plus newly added information.






Centuries of fear mongering by politicians has resulted in the tremendous expansion of government, ever since the founding fathers started deficit spending on the revolutionary war to "free" themselves from Great Britain.

Would the American people have paid for the revolutionary war out of their own pockets ? ... They probably would have told the founding fathers to be as patient as the Canadians and not rebel against Britain.

Today, because 68 cents of every tax dollar goes to the military/industrial complex, its inevitable that the special interests from the military/industrial complex will have the biggest influence on the US govt. and that is why the US govt has a military solution to problems rather than trying to save trillions through pragmatic negotiations, diplomacy and inexpensive covert operations.

Ref : http://www.bu.edu/globalbeat/syndicate/ ... 62005.html


With a yearly trillion dollar or more spending on the military/industrial complex, you would think that the CIA is well equipped and funded but not only is the CIA underfunded but the resources it does have is not properly administered. Why is that ?

because if the CIA is well funded and functioning properly than intelligence will show that war is unnecessary but the politicians and the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex do not want to hear that war is unnecessary unless the cost/benefit analysis proves otherwise.

ref : http://www.historycommons.org/entity.js ... m_center_1


The following is one example of a very expensive military solution to the events of 9/11 when pragmatic, covert, diplomatic efforts and a hundred million dollar financial incentive to the Taliban could have easily apprehended Osama bin Laden, marginalized his influence in the muslim world and saved trillions on the "war on terror".


We could easily have prevented the September 11 terrorist attacks, if we had done the following :

(1) Not got involved with the "Muhjahadeen" to oust the Soviet Union from Afghanistan....

..Osama Bin Laden's life was transformed by the experience he had in Afghanistan.

You could say his ideas of jihad were "born again" in Afghanistan and the aid the US gave the Muhjahadeen went a long way to helping this "born again" experience.

Osama Bin Laden himself stated that the ousting of the Soviet Union was the will of Allah (he did not mention that without the US, he would not have been able to oust the Soviet Union from Afghanistan)

and this "Will of Allah " experience against the Soviet Union encouraged him immensely and gave him the courage to later go after the US but if Bin Laden was defeated in Afghanistan against the Soviets ( which was very possible if the US did not help ) then Bin Laden might have concluded that it was not Allah's will to go after super powers,

or Bin Laden might to this day still be too busy fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan and not been able to use Afghanistan as a training base for attacks on the US and/or in Kashmir.


(2) Not got involved in ousting Saddam Hussein from Kuwait, restoring the cruel dictatorship in Kuwait and protecting the cruel dictatorship in Saudi Arabia who live hedonistic lifestyles.

Saddam Hussein was anti-religious and ready to sell oil to the West.

In fact during the oil embargo of the seventies, when Arab nations restricted the sale of oil, Saddam Hussein went against the embargo and sold oil to the west.

According to the Duelfer Report, Saddam in the late nineties, through his officials, told Charles Duelfer (special adviser to the CIA) that he wanted to start a dialogue with the US and wanted to be America's best friend in the Middle East.

If Saddam Hussein were to have taken over the middle east (which is next to impossible), he would have curbed Al-Qaeda that encourages terrorism, checked the regional aspirations of Iran and sold cheap oil to the US.

President Reagan told Saddam Hussein to stop supporting Palestinian groups in the early eighties and then President Reagan removed Iraq from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.........this is another of several examples that Saddam wanted to be our ally.

The CIA knew about the consequences of the Iraq war and the subsequent sectarian violence and yet the US government invaded Iraq, even though during the 80s when Saddam Hussein was at his worst and actually using WMD, there was not one CIA report stating that Saddam Hussein was a threat to the US.



(3) Not sanctioned Iraq....

..Osama Bin Laden points to UN reports, rightly or wrongly, that our sanctions on Iraq was the cause of half a million Iraqi children dying prematurely.


(4) not sold weapons to Israel...

...Osama Bin Laden points to the fact, rightly or wrongly, that American made weapons were used by the Israelis to kill Palestinian men, women and children through collateral damage


(5) reinforced pilot doors and had air marshals on every flight, like Israel did long time ago.


(6) Not setting up bases in Saudi Arabia.

IF WE HAD NOT GOT INVOLVED IN THE GULF WAR, WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TROOPS IN SAUDI ARABIA..

The presence of US troops was the "straw that broke the camel's back".

What did Osama Bin Laden see in the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia ?

The only way to see what Osama Bin Laden saw is to go back in time to read and see what Osama read and saw.

What motivated Osama Bin Laden to declare "war" on the US govt ?

Here are the main motivations in chronological order:



All the motivations can be found in the various "fatwas" from Osama Bin Laden.



( Please note : I do not agree with Osama Bin Laden and Osama should have followed the teachings of Christ in not retaliating against any kind of provocation ) :


MOTIVATIONS IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER :


(1) Osama Bin Laden read about the US govt. fire and atom bombing Japan in 1945 when Japan was already defeated as early as July of 1944 when Tojo resigned and Japan was negotiating concessions to the communists but FDR did not care about communists either killing tens of millions of civilians or that the crushing of Japan enabled communism to expand in Asia resulting in hundreds of thousands of US soldiers either dying horrifying deaths or being maimed, disfigured, deformed, blinded or paralyzed for life during the cold war.

(2) Osama Bin Laden must have read about US/Allied POWs in Japan and hundreds of thousands of Japanese children being terrorized, tortured and burned alive in the US fire and atom bombings of Japan and must have concluded that if FDR/Truman did not care about the plight of their own US soldiers captive in Japan and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Japanese children, why should Osama bin Laden care about lives when strategic goals were more important.( this is how terrorists think and I do not agree with the way they think ).

(3) Osama Bin Laden read about the US government in the 50s overthrowing a democratically elected Mossadegh of Iran and eventually the Shah terrorized his own people in Iran while receving military support from the US govt

(4) He read about the US government in the 60s, arming the Israeli government that used those very US weapons to collaterally kill palestinian children and babies

(5) He saw the US government in the 70s using napalm, agent orange and carpet bombing Vietnam and Cambodia, collaterally killing hundreds of thousands or even millions.

(6) He saw the US government in the 70s supporting cruel, murderous dictators like the Shah of Iran.

(7) He saw the US government in the 80s siding with the "christian" militias in Lebanon, the very christian militias that massacred muslims.

(8) He saw the US government in the 80s supporting cruel dictators like Saddam Hussein.

(9) He saw the US government in the 90s imposing cruel sanctions on Iraq, resulting in UN reports stating that half a million Iraqi children died prematurely due to the sanctions.

(10) He saw that the cruel Saudi dictatorship was being supported by the US government , the very dictatorship that tortured dissidents who opposed the stationing of US troops in Saudi Arabia.

(11) He saw that the US government never left any country in which it had troops in ( example: US troops still present in Germany and Japan, even after the war had ended decades ago).

(12) He saw that warnings to the US government to withdraw its troops from Saudi Arabia were ignored.

(13) He tried to get US troops out of Saudi Arabia by launching a terror campaign in the 90s.

(14) He saw that his terror campaign against the US had failed and US troops still remained in Saudi Arabia, 9 years after the gulf war had ended.

(15) He saw that the only sure way to get the US government to withdraw its troops from Saudi Arabia was to launch an attack on the US homeland on 9/11/01.

(16) He saw that President Bush finally gave into his demands to withdraw troops, only after the 9/11 attacks, and US troops finally left Saudi Arabia in 2003, almost 13 years after the gulf war had ended



...Placing our troops in Saudi Arabia deeply affected Osama Bin Laden and the Saudi religious leadership because of the historical record of the US govt. in its dealings in the middle east and elsewhere.

An analogous way of looking at it would be America's involvement in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan because the Soviets had their "presence" in those countries and America was afraid communism would spread if the Soviets were allowed to have their presence in Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan and thinking along the same lines, Al-Qaeda does not want American military presence in any Muslim country, especially "holy" Saudi Arabia because Osama was afraid the US govt would continue supporting the cruel Saudi dictatorship's crack down on dissidents.

So just as America was trying to prevent communism from spreading by being militarily involved in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan; Al-Qaeda wants to get "militarily" involved in preventing the US govt's support of cruel dictators in the middle east.

THIS IS THE MAIN REASON FOR THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS.....AMERICAN MILITARY PRESENCE IN SAUDI ARABIA and the subsequent imprisonment and torture of Saudi dissidents by the cruel Saudi dictatorship that provoked Osama Bin Laden to act.




IT TOOK ABOUT FORTY YEARS OF THE US GOVT.'S BLOWBACK POLICIES, IN THE MIDDLE EAST, FOR THE TERRORISTS TO FINALLY STRIKE THE US HOMELAND.




Some of the points above is all about perception based on facts that might have been blown all out of proportion in the minds of the radicals in the Middle East, but in the end, perception is what motivates people to commit horrendous acts.

Al-Qaida's wrong perception about the US, makes it not able to differentiate between the actions of the US government and its citizens because in Al-Qaida's mind, since we are a democracy, every citizen is responsible for the actions of our government .


Reasons to kill have a lot to do with "just war", just as 85% of the American public thought it was "just" to drop atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, showing that war brings out the worst in people and if war can bring out the worst in the American public that was hardly affected by Japanese bombs, can you imagine the affect war has on a muslim population under fire from US bombs ?


ref : http://www.gallup.com/poll/17677/majori ... -wwii.aspx


We have read about numerous cases in the US in which loving fathers in our non-war zone and trauma-less America have nonetheless terrorized, tortured and killed their own children or pregnant wives, either through suffocation, drowning, hanging, beheading, stabbings or shootings,

so is it surprising that in Iraq or Afghanistan today, in the trauma of a war zone, where numerous victims see their loved ones being killed or blinded, maimed, deformed or paralyzed or disfigured for life due to either US bombings or sectarian violence, that those victims are vulnerable to Al-Qaeda's propaganda which is able to influence the victims to take revenge and kill Muslims allied with the US or collaterally/accidentally kill Muslim children in the process of attacking US forces or Shia militias ?


If you were in a war zone and you see your family murdered by rebels or collaterally killed by the occupying force, knowing that you do not compromise with injustice , what would you do ?



When a foreign power occupies another country or when separatist movements reject the govt., it tends to result in terrorism, as was seen by the torture that many loyalist Americans/British went through by being tarred ( boiling tar being poured on them) because they were seen as loyal to the occupying British forces by the American rebels.



Another form of terrorism was the killing of british troops by the American rebels, after the British troops had surrendered.

ref : http://home.golden.net/~marg/bansite/ba ... arter.html



Lynchings were ordered by American Patriot Judge Charles Lynch on the terrorized American loyalists who were loyal to the British Crown.



So terrorism can be the result of being in a war zone and its either terrorism from the occupying force through collateral actions or the terrorism of the rebels against those loyal to the occupying force.



The fact that 100,000 loyalists, who were loyal to Britain, fled the US, shows the terror they faced, not only from being tarred or properties confiscated but being lynched to death.

ref : http://www.redcoat.me.uk/






The following four examples is about the other side of the perception coin;

the US govt.'s perception of foreigners and the US govt.'s inability to differentiate between different groups of foreigners or unwillingness to care about foreign children as they would care about American children :

(1) An example of the US govt.'s perception and its inability to differentiate between a small group of evil people and the innocent population at large can be seen in the deliberate terrorizing, torture and burning alive or blinding, maiming, disfiguring, deforming or paralyzing for life, hundreds of thousands of babies and children in the fire bombings of scores of Japanese cities and the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War Two in 1945 when Japan was already defeated and ready to surrender conditionally as early as August of 1944.

(2) The deliberate allied carpet bombing of Dresden during World War Two with the foreknowledge that the bombing will terrorize and kill or blind, maim, disfigure or deform for life, tens of thousands of Dresden's children is another example of the inability or unwillingness to differentiate between the small group of evil Nazis and the population at large.

(3) Another example of the US govt.'s perception and its inability to differentiate between different Arab groups can be seen in the US govt.'s propaganda that influenced a large percentage of Americans to believe that Saddam Hussein was connected to Al-Qaeda and was behind the attacks on September 11, 2001.

(4) Another example of the US govt.'s perception and its inability to differentiate between terrorists and other Arabs, resulted in the rejection of Dubai ports ( An Arab company) from operating in the US .

The inability or unwillingness to differentiate between a small group of terrorists and the larger innocent population is what leads both the US government and terrorists like Timothy McVeigh to launch attacks which result in either the collateral/accidental deaths of millions of civilians, children and babies in the case of US attacks (from 1776 through the wars of the 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st centuries) or in the case of terrorists, the deliberate murder of civilians without any thought about who will die due to their attacks.

Propensity towards war can also be traced to crisis that are either instigated or exploited and that results in the festering of the problem which can be used to scare the American public into not complaining about 68 cents of every tax dollar going to the profit agenda of the bloated, wasteful, corrupt military/industrial pork laden corporate welfare entitlement complex and in return for the trillion dollar yearly budget to the military/industrial complex, the fear mongering politicians are assured of being re-elected due to contributions from their friends in the military/industrial complex and the hundreds of thousands of employees of the military/industrial complex that purposely makes sure that its facilities are spread out among numerous congressional districts in order to maintain the loyalty of its puppets in the US government.

The reason the US government lets a problem fester is because that is the only way the US government can expand because only during a crisis do the American people suspend all reasonable logic and give their power over to the US government and THAT IS HOW THE US GOVT. HAS GROWN OVER THE CENTURIES BY EXPLOITING EVERY CRISIS.


The military/industrial complex cannot be overlooked because the US government is structured around the corporate interests of the military/industrial complex thus giving rise to the entire machinery of government being geared towards war and military solutions instead of non-military solutions to problems and the resulting flourishing of no bid contracts and war profiteering (eg. the unnecessary cold war expenditures that ended up costing the American taxpayers about 5.5 trillion dollars i.e five hundred thousand million dollars plus ten times that same amount )

instead of directing valuable resources to useful projects in order to have :

All 100% of cargo on aircraft and ships inspected by bomb detection equipment instead of the 6-10% of cargo being inspected today

a much safer railway system using the latest radar and laser technology to prevent crashes,

latest parachute technology to prevent air crashes,

safe gang free environment,

gun violence free environment

and criminal activity free environment in our cities,

affordable health care,

affordable high quality education,

safe food by having all food sources inspected instead of only 2% of imported food being inspected right now

safe water, air and environment (example : free radon tests to prevent cancer ),

congestion free roads,

roads without pot holes,

bridges that are not dangerous,

levees that do not break,

utilities that are not overworked and that create outages,

more intensive medical research that cures cancer,
prevents/cures heart disease, diabetes and other deadly conditions,

more intensive research into cleaner alternative fuels,

more intensive technological research that gives easy access to broadband and congestion free Internet infrastructure,

lower taxes etc etc etc,

to improve the living standard of the average American.

Fear of the unknown ( the terrorists) is being propagated by the propaganda from western governments who want to keep their wasteful spending on the military as high as possible and thus depriving you of a better and healthier standard of living because as long as you fear the terrorists, the US government can keep their supporters in the military/industrial complex "laughing all the way to the bank " and so the US govt does not have to spend adequate money on safer food, safer air, safer water and a safer environment from pollutants and poisons in everyday items you use.


The US govt. is not always interested in preventing war but rather more interested in keeping its supporters happy in the bloated, greedy, wasteful, corrupt military/industrial pork laden, corporate welfare entitlement complex

by keeping the fear level of terrorism and Iran high enough, the politicians hope that the hard working Americans do not question the yearly trillion dollar looting of hard earned taxpayers money and while the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex "laugh all the way to the bank, their puppets in the US govt will have to prevent the insolvency of the US govt. by eventually raising taxes dramatically and/or dramatically cutting essential services like health care, social security, medical research, essential research on curing deadly diseases, pollution controls, poisons controls, terrorism prevention, infrastructure maintenance , food safety inspections, utilities maintenance, traffic congestion prevention, gun violence prevention, gang violence prevention etc etc.



Toxins in your moisturizer? Pesticides in your vegetables? Cancer-causing chemicals in your cleaning supplies? and instead of taking care of these problems, the govt. keeps supporting the corporate welfare system of the military/industrial complex.

Researchers say the overuse of antibiotics in humans and animals has led to a plague of drug-resistant infections that killed more than 65,000 people in the U.S. last year — more than prostate and breast cancer combined.

ref : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091229/ap_ ... eat_we_eat


Since 2004, testing by water utilities has found 315 pollutants in the tap water Americans drink, according to an Environmental Working Group (EWG) drinking water quality analysis of almost 20 million records obtained from state water officials.

More than half of the chemicals detected are not subject to health or safety regulations and can legally be present in any amount.

ref : http://www.ewg.org/tap-water/home?key=38817368


"Millions of consumers are being made ill, hundreds of thousands hospitalized and thousands are dying each year from preventable food borne illnesses," according to The Center for Science in the Public Interest. "Unfortunately, the FDA is saddled with outdated laws, and lacks the authority, tools and resources to fight unsafe food."



ref : http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/06/news/co ... 2009100609


Twenty-six (26) States DO NOT have statewide or local jurisdictions that have RRNC Building Codes that prevent indoor radon poisoning which causes lung cancer

ref : http://www.epa.gov/radon/rrnc/code_listing.html



Instead of keeping Americans safe from pollutants, poisons in every day household items and deadly pathogens, the US govt directs trillions to unnecessary wars and unnecessary "defense" projects.



The US govt. will not give up the American empire even while the American economy is suffering and has just approved 805 billion ( eight hundred thousand million plus another five thousand million ) to the military/industrial complex which does not include the hundreds of billions going to homeland security, maintenance of nuclear armaments, the veterans budget, and the interest payments on the debt borrowed on behalf of the military/industrial complex.


Interest payments alone on the debt incurred by funding past unnecessary wars and bloated unnecessary projects of the military/industrial complex amounts to about $250 billion a year.

ref : http://www.bu.edu/globalbeat/syndicate/ ... 62005.html


and at this rate of spending, the US will eventually become a third rate economy with lower standards of living for the average American while social security benefits will be cut, health care rationed, cuts in high quality education and cuts in all essential projects and essential services like medical research, essential research on curing deadly diseases, pollution controls, poisons controls, terrorism prevention, infrastructure maintenance , food safety inspections, utilities maintenance, traffic congestion prevention, gun violence prevention, gang violence prevention etc etc.



One easy way to help the military/industrial complex is to instigate a war :


Stimson, the Secretary of War confided in his diary after a meeting of the war cabinet on November 25, 1941 : “The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves".

After the Pearl Harbor attack, Stimson confessed : “my first feeling was of relief ... that a crisis had come in a way which would unite all our people."


The military/industrial complex would rather make money through the corporate welfare system without war,

but the US is a "warfare" state in which war is too much of a temptation and too lucrative for war profits to be abandoned completely, so the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex thrive on conflict and its in their interest to keep the conflict going and that is why you will find instigation policies of the US and Israeli govts in keeping the terrorists agitated enough so that they will keep causing problems and in turn the fear that is generated among the public due to terrorism will enable politicians to keep expanding the "defense" budget because a fearful public will not question the ever expanding "defense" budget and in turn the ever expanding "defense" budget keeps the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex happy and pave the way for support and re-elections of the military/industrial complex's puppet politicians.


War creates chaos and the military/industrial complex knows that within the environment of chaos, not only is it easy to win no-bid contracts but fraud and the looting of the treasury is much easier with little oversight in a war zone.

And the people who pay the price for all the instigated conflicts are the poor, the sick, the handicapped, the children and the babies, while the so-called adults send our young and beloved soldiers to their deaths, all in the name of honor, duty and patriotism while the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex "laugh all the way to the bank ".


Here are two examples of instigation policies that resulted in war or prolonged the conflict :

(1) The US govt instigated Japan by freezing Japanese assets,embargoes, helping the Chinese military against Japan and as the McCollum Memo from US naval intelligence and Stimson, the Secretary of War admitted that the US govt did everything short of all out war, to instigate the Japanese govt to attack, since only if the Japanese attacked first would that unite the American people for war, since the American people did not want another world war since WW1.

(2) Instead of using pragmatic, diplomatic and covert initiatives, the US govt demanded that the Taliban hand over Osama Bin Laden to the US, knowing fully well that that kind of belligerent rude approach will not make the Taliban concede to the demands of the US govt and thus pave the way for a "profitable" war.

The Taliban tried to save face by saying that Osama bin Laden (if found , since he fled to the mountains after the 9/11 attack) would be put on trial in a muslim country , but the US govt. was more interested in the prospects of a "profitable" war then trying to negotiate with the Taliban.


War affects soldiers and their families in ways that are tragic. War can lead to depression, drug addiction, nightmares, PTSD, psychotic illness, divorce and eventually homelessness or even suicide.


Children of soldiers have been known to wet their beds due to anxiety attacks and being worried and anxious about whether they will receive news about their fathers being horribly killed in war.



ref : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5334479



ref : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34807684/ns ... al_health/ (regarding suicide )



ref : http://www.nchv.org/background.cfm#facts (regarding homeless veterans )



The movie " Born on the Fourth of July" (1989) is a vivid reminder of the propaganda by the US govt. that results in young vulnerable boys being sold the idea that war can be honorable and just but in reality, war is horrifying and traumatic, not only for our soldiers but for soldiers' families and innocent civilians, children and babies, while those who profit from war are the politicians and the owners of the military/industrial complex, as the rich and powerful send the poor and powerless deliberately into harm's way, all in the name of honor, duty, freedom and patriotism.


If you look at the history of the US govt,

from its rebellion ,

its treatment of blacks and native Americans,

its imperial conquests of native American nations,

hawaii,

spanish colonies,

its gun boat diplomacy,

its genocidal occupation of the Philippines,

its merciless atom and fire bombing destruction of a defeated Japan



and its blow back policies that spawned WW2, the Cold War, the Middle Eastern Wars, Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the expansion of communism/fascism etc. etc.


and the resulting loss of hundreds of millions of lives and the loss of hundreds of thousands of US soldiers dying horrifying deaths or the hundreds of thousands of US soldiers maimed, deformed, blinded, paralyzed or disfigured for life

and the despair experienced by hundreds of thousands of American families who have their loved ones adversely affected by war, you would have to conclude that the US govt. has not been a blessing to the world,




all because of the power trips of the war mongering chicken hawk politicians and their profit driven supporters in the greedy, corrupt, wasteful, bloated military/industrial pork laden corporate welfare entitlement complex that has got hundreds of trillions of dollars of hard earned taxpayers money over the decades, all in the name of honor, duty, freedom, patriotism and liberty.

ref : viewtopic.php?f=14&t=30749&p=85787&hilit=weak+america#p85787




As one wise Samuel Johnson said on the evening of April 7, 1775, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".

If any defense contract gets reduced or canceled, you can bet the war profiteering defense contractor and his puppet in the US govt. will rally up his supporters and say its not patriotic to cancel a defense contract.

The "defense" industry in the United States has raked in trillions of dollars during the past fifty years (one authoritative estimate puts it at nearly twenty trillion dollars).

ref : See Ken Silverstein’s Private Warriors, p. viii.


When the Cold War ended, there literally were no more enemies worth worrying about. Once the "Soviet Menace" evaporated, the defense establishment searched high and low to find enemies to keep justifying the pork barrel. Muammar Qaddafi, Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, drug dealers, Castro, etc., had to be magically transformed into malevolent demons that threatened America’s very existence. America has the biggest killing machine the world has ever seen, and no military rivals. The Gulf War and pounding Yugoslavia were excuses to test weapons and increase America’s hegemony.


If the US government makes peace with Iran and co-opts the Ayatollahs as President Reagan co-opted Saddam Hussein, there will be one less enemy in the world, but that will not sit well with the those who want as many enemies as possible in order to keep the fear level high enough so that the American public will not question that 68 cents of every hard earned tax dollar or more than a trillion dollars is going every year to the bloated, greedy, wasteful, corrupt military/industrial pork laden corporate welfare entitlement complex.

The rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex are "laughing all the way to the bank " while the average American has to forgo a better and healthier standard of living due to a trillion dollars or 68 cents of every hard earned tax dollar being squandered every year on projects that have little value with the actual safety or security of the American people.

The yearly trillion dollar looting of hard earned taxpayers' money from the treasury by the military/industrial complex and its puppets in the US govt is giving us neither security or safety as evidenced by 19 hijackers using box-cutters on a half million dollar budget, infiltrating all our trillion dollar defenses and that is one reason the guilt-ridden US govt had to compensate the families of the victims on 9/11.



The entire US govt. is corrupt, especially in the area of "defense" which will eventually make the US govt. insolvent and the US govt. will prevent insolvency by eventually raising taxes dramatically and/or dramatically cutting essential services like health care, social security, medical research, essential research on curing deadly diseases, pollution controls, poisons controls, terrorism prevention, infrastructure maintenance , food safety inspections, utilities maintenance, traffic congestion prevention, gun violence prevention, gang violence prevention, oversight etc etc.

Not only is the US govt corrupt, its foreign policies make it dangerous to the safety and security of the American people and all the people outside of America who are adversely affected by US foreign policy.



19 hijackers using box-cutters on a half million dollar budget who penetrated all our trillion dollar defenses on 9/11/01 is a glaring example that the entire "defense" industry has degenerated into a bloated, corrupt, corporate welfare system that is more interested in looting the US treasury of over a trillion dollars every year than truly keeping all Americans safe while the Swiss are much more safe with their comparatively miniscule defense budget of 3.5 billion dollars a year. Even Russia and China combined have defense budgets about 10 times less than the US trillion dollar yearly budget.


The 2009 U.S. military budget is almost as much as the rest of the world's defense spending combined and is over nine times larger than the military budget of China (compared at the nominal US dollar / Renminbi rate, not the PPP rate).

ref : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_b ... penditures


As much as the U.S. Navy has shrunk since the end of the Cold War, for example, in terms of tonnage, its battle fleet is still larger than the next 13 navies combined—and 11 of those 13 navies are U.S. allies or partners.


ref : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... problem.3F




Why is Switzerland not being attacked when the Swiss are only spending about 3.5 billion a year on "defense" ?

Could it be because Swiss policies do not instigate terrorists ?




Letter from US General Petraeus :

10 May 2007

Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, and Coast Guardsmen serving in Multi-National Force—Iraq:

Our values and the laws governing warfare teach us to respect human dignity, maintain our integrity, and do what is right. Adherence to our values distinguishes us from our enemy. This fight depends on securing the population, which must understand that we—not our enemies—occupy the moral high ground. This strategy has shown results in recent months. Al Qaeda’s indiscriminate attacks, for example, have finally started to turn a substantial portion of the Iraqi population against it.

In view of this, I was concerned by the results of a recently released survey conducted last fall in Iraq that revealed an apparent unwillingness on the part of some US personnel to report illegal actions taken by fellow members of their units. The study also indicated that a small percentage of those surveyed may have mistreated noncombatants. This survey should spur reflection on our conduct in combat. (end of quote )


Comment :


The General's concern is a classic example of the disadvantages of using military force and of human nature to exact revenge on the enemy.

Here is a video of Israeli soldiers being filmed and while being filmed, they are firing tear gas at the reporter who is only reporting the news, so one can imagine what happens off camera to those civilians without cameras

ref : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34jPNN0qdF8&NR=1


If reporters are subject to tear gas in a non-war environment, can you imagine what happens when raw emotions take over in a war zone ?


Even if revenge is not the motive, too many soldiers are on hair trigger alert and are scared out of their wits and so at the slightest provocation or sound or movement,it does sometimes result in soldiers firing in panic and if it can happen in peaceful America where unarmed citizens are shot by frightened cops, can you imagine what happens in a war zone and that is another reason why war is never the answer.

ref : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeOaTpYl8mE


Also, using military force causes huge collateral damage no matter how careful our soldiers are due to the fact that heavy weaponry is being used and the enemy tends to either hide among civilians or shoots from populated areas.

Using the military and the resulting collateral deaths of civilians, children and babies, serve as recruiting propaganda for more family members or sympathizers of the victims of US collateral actions to join the terrorist ranks and the "war on terror" will never end which in turn serves to profit the political agendas of politicians and the profit agendas of the military/industrial complex.


War is not the solution to the problem;

WAR IS THE PROBLEM



as cycles of violence generated by war seem to never end or war spawns more wars as seen in WW1 resulting in WW2 and the gulf war resulting in the attacks on 9/11 etc.


The video link below shows at least two men who are smiling, not realizing that the collateral actions on their part would result in children and babies being terrorized before they die horrifying deaths or children and babies being terrorized as they are maimed, blinded, disfigured, deformed or paralyzed for life, ruining any chances of marriage or having kids or a happy, depression free and pain free life:


REF : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7tkDV7egw


What do terrorists and the two men in the above video have in common ? Both the terrorists and the two men in the video do not realize that their actions will result in children and babies being terrorized and killed and why do they not realize that ? its because to them, strategic goals are more important than any collateral deaths resulting from their actions.



The war mongers and decision makers do not care about the lives that they were going to put at risk, not only the lives of our beloved soldiers but the lives of children and babies in the war zone because they are more interested in the political agenda of the politicians and the profit agenda of the military/industrial complex.



Would an offensive war ever happen if all eligible children of politicians were drafted by law to go to the front lines ?


From the destruction of innocent Japanese cherry blossom trees during World War Two in Washington DC to the presence of US nuclear weapons that "tell" foreign governments that if they kill our children with a nuclear attack, the US government has the right to kill all their children with our nuclear weapons, is a testimony to the similarity between the terrorists and what the US government has at least done in the past in which both the terrorists and the US government have punished or wanted to punish collaterally or otherwise, "trees" and the general population (of innocent men, women, children and babies ) in order to benefit the power agendas of politicians and the profit agendas of the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex , resulting in the rich and powerful in the US govt. sending the poor and powerless deliberately into harm's way, all in the name of patriotism, honor and duty while collaterally killing the very people the US govt. claims to set free from tyranny.


One reason it seems I am repeating things is because I am trying to reverse centuries of what the US govt has done to the general psyche of the American people.

the US govt. has its propaganda machine repeating the same things every day to the masses, and so while you are growing up, you hear the same things over and over again in different ways, from different proxies of the US govt. (eg parents, teachers, friends) and so your mind becomes molded into the image that the US govt wants you to incorporate into your subconscious mind.

The US govt. knows the human brain has not evolved to the point of not listening to propaganda, so that the US govt. can easily spread fear of the "bogeyman" , so the yearly trillion dollar looting of the treasury will not be questioned.




Similarly, Hitler spread irrational fear of the Jews and Communism in order to control the people, so that they would not question his actions.





The only way to reverse that kind of brain washing is repeating the same things in different ways, till the damage can be reversed.

How else can you explain the American public not questioning the yearly trillion dollar looting of the treasury by the bloated, corrupt, greedy, wasteful military/industrial pork laden, corporate welfare, entitlement complex ?

unless the yearly trillion dollar looting is not seen as looting by the American masses but as essential to American security.


All the hundreds of trillions of dollars that could have been saved, if the US govt never got involved in totally unnecessary wars, could have gone to worthwhile projects but the US govt prefers to let problems fester in the world so it can have a military solution to the problem and thereby loot the treasury of hundreds of trillions of dollars over the decades on behalf of the military/industrial complex

President Obama is expanding government after politicians let problems fester in the economy.

The reason the US government lets a problem fester is because that is the only way the US government can expand because only during a crisis do the American people suspend all reasonable logic and give their power over to the US government and THAT IS HOW THE US GOVT. HAS GROWN OVER THE CENTURIES BY EXPLOITING EVERY CRISIS and the Iraq-Kuwait problem was one of those crisis that the US government exploited to its advantage in terms of transferring trillions or 68 cents of every hard earned tax dollar every year to the bloated, wasteful, greedy corrupt military/industrial pork laden corporate welfare entitlement complex or during the cold war where the US govt. spent an unnecessary 5.5 trillion dollars ( FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND MILLION DOLLARS PLUS TEN TIMES THAT SAME AMOUNT ) instead of just co-opting the communists in the USSR by putting them on the CIA payroll, while pushing for democratic reforms, which would have cost only about $1 billion a year and thus saving American taxpayers five hundred thousand million dollars plus almost ten times that same amount.


War is not all about freedom or saving lives or saving the lives of US soldiers/US POWs or even ending the power of the militarists or terrorists but

War is mostly about money and power.

The "war on terror" is not all about saving lives or even ending the power of the terrorists/militarists but its much more about power and money.




IN CLOSING :


Here is investment advice that will help you keep your assets safe, even if the dollar crashes :

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When 20 billion dollars is spent yearly on curbing the terrorist drug cartels that are ruining the lives of our children and murdering tens of thousands of people compared to over a trillion dollars being spent every year on the corporate welfare system of the military/industrial complex, everybody should realize where the priorities of the US govt. is at and that the US govt is more interested in helping its friends in the military/industrial complex than actually protecting and saving lives.


To keep maintaining the looting of the treasury (on behalf its friends in the military/industrial complex ) of over a trillion dollars a year, the US govt needs to at least keep the idea of the "enemy" uppermost in peoples mind so that people do not question the yearly trillion dollar looting whether those "enemies" are actually a threat or not and so that is why the 28 point peace plan is important in helping people see that defense budgets can be drastically reduced without hurting the safety and security of the American people.


If you do not petition the US govt to change its ways regarding the military/industrial complex, then you are are a good compliant citizen, according to the govt. as the rich and powerful in the military/industrial complex "laugh all the way to the bank " while the average American has to forgo a much better standard of living while still being unsafe and insecure as was seen by the attacks on 9/11 where 19 hijackers on a half million dollar budget with box-cutters, penetrated all our trillion dollar defenses while the Swiss with their miniscule 3.5 billion budget were safe and secure.



Please watch the following video regarding what will happen in America if the present rate of spending continues and a violent rebellion might be the inevitable result when the US govt takes drastic measures to prevent insolvency:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedkYNj3Roo



The above video shows that the very policies regarding enemy combatants could be used against dissident American citizens who take to the streets when the US govt imposes drastic measures to prevent the collapse of the US govt.




After watching the above video, ask yourself this question:



Could American citizens be tried as enemy combatants when they rebel after the US govt takes drastic measures to prevent insolvency ?





TO PREVENT THE INEVITABLE :




The link below outlines the 28 point peace plan which would result in curbing the power agendas of the politicians and the profit agendas of the military/industrial complex and pave the way for a peaceful, happy and prosperous world for everybody :




REF : 28 POINT PEACE PLAN.





Ref : A yearly budget of over a trillion dollars to the military/industrial complex.




Ref : The US govt. has not been a blessing to the world.



Ref : 68 cents of every tax dollar going to the military/industrial complex.



Ref : trillions in military not accounted for.


Ref: A YEARLY trillion dollar military/industrial budget.


Ref : superficial military reform.


Ref: 805 billion approved for military/industrial complex by Obama.


Ref: Cold War cost 5.5 trillion or five hundred thousand million dollars plus 10 times that same amount.







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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby pubjohn47 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:58 am

President Obama is being accused of threatening the security of Israel but that is not logical when President Obama is supporting his Zionist friends in the bloated, corrupt, greedy, military/industrial pork laden corporate welfare entitlement complex.

These accusations are another way to keep looting the treasury in order for the military/industrial complex to send more weapons to Israel
The powerful in the military/industrial complex are "laughing all the way to the bank " while Americans have to forgo a secure and healthier standard of living due to over a trillion dollars being looted every year by the greedy military/industrial complex, resulting in blowback policies that create more danger than safety for the American people
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby bruno » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:10 pm

Hey all,
Maybe the real question should not be about the so-called "looting" pervjohn incessantly whines about, but about why a nitwit like pervjohn responds to his own thread when no one bothered to post a reply to the initial post...probably as a direct result of most contributors here (including myself) having pervjohn on their foe list and who don't really give a damn what he "thinks".

While I didn't read (did I mention that pervjohn is on my foe list?) pervjohn's latest cut and paste prose, the title of this thread (which is still there for ALL to see) said it all for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time. So if pervjohn can habitually wreck other threads, maybe it's time we united to wreck his.

What say you?
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby dariovinny62 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:04 pm

bruno wrote:Hey all,
Maybe the real question should not be about the so-called "looting" pervjohn incessantly whines about, but about why a nitwit like pervjohn responds to his own thread when no one bothered to post a reply to the initial post...probably as a direct result of most contributors here (including myself) having pervjohn on their foe list and who don't really give a damn what he "thinks".

While I didn't read (did I mention that pervjohn is on my foe list?) pervjohn's latest cut and paste prose, the title of this thread (which is still there for ALL to see) said it all for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time. So if pervjohn can habitually wreck other threads, maybe it's time we united to wreck his.

What say you?

B,
Pubjohn47 is way overannoying with these military industrial complex lectures. [I know, THAT is an understatement]. He [almost] wrecked one of my first threads with this non-stop idiocy. So I'm not opposed to your idea. In fact, I think a little payback is in order.

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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby bruno » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:08 pm

Thanks, Dave. Any suggestions for really hijacking pervjohn's latest soapbox?
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby dariovinny62 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:13 pm

bruno wrote:Thanks, Dave. Any suggestions for really hijacking pervjohn's latest soapbox?

I was thinking a game of "Six Degrees"

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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby bruno » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:17 pm

dariovinny62 wrote:
bruno wrote:Thanks, Dave. Any suggestions for really hijacking pervjohn's latest soapbox?

I was thinking a game of "Six Degrees"

Dave

Dave,
What's "Six Degrees"?
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby dariovinny62 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:44 pm

bruno wrote:
dariovinny62 wrote:
bruno wrote:Thanks, Dave. Any suggestions for really hijacking pervjohn's latest soapbox?

I was thinking a game of "Six Degrees"

Dave

Dave,
What's "Six Degrees"?

“Six Degrees” (sometimes called the "Human Web") is a game based on the idea that, if a person is one step away from each person they know and two steps away from each person who is known by one of the people they know, then everyone is at most six steps away from any other person on Earth.

It is usually played by naming a pair of actors/actresses who have never appeared in a movie together and “tying” them together through a series of movies where other actors/actresses “bridge” them together. Rule is that this must be done in six movies or less. A quick example might help.

Example: Hayley Mills and Michael Douglas:

Hayley Mills appeared with Maureen O’Hara in “The Parent Trap”
Maureen O’Hara appeared with John Wayne in “The Quiet Man”
John Wayne appeared with Michael Douglas in “Cast a Giant Shadow”

While “Six Degrees” can be played for points, these usually fall by the wayside especially with multiple players. The game can still be kind of fun and is also an excellent primer for discussing movies. Does this clarify things?
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby Jeffreydan » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:50 pm

We could also trade chicken recipes and discuss woodworking techniques.

(Just kidding--PJ got scolded and deleted by Sinatra the last time he saw the diversion stuff, so honoring the rule might be good on our end, too.)
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby bruno » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:02 pm

OK, how about Kevin Bacon and Lionel Barrymore.
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby dariovinny62 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:16 pm

Jeffreydan wrote:We could also trade chicken recipes and discuss woodworking techniques.

Great idea, Jeffreydan! :D Anything that’ll discourage pubjohn47 and help bury this thread is welcome. :dance:

Jeffreydan wrote:Just kidding--PJ got scolded and deleted by Sinatra the last time he saw the diversion stuff, so honoring the rule might be good on our end, too.
I respectfully disagree. First, how many times should pubjohn47 be allowed to reply to his own posts to keep floating this thread to the top of the list? Second, not all of pubjohn47's more disruptive posts were deleted as evidenced in a Michael Jackson thread I started a few weeks ago. Finally, since the mods aren’t always around to apply such corrective action, perhaps some of us need to deal with this annoyance who calls himself pubjohn47 on our own.

Bottom line: Pubjohn47 got away with ruining several threads before some of his posts finally got deleted. So I don’t think a little payback is necessarily a bad thing and should not be prohibited.
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby dariovinny62 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:20 pm

bruno wrote:OK, how about Kevin Bacon and Lionel Barrymore.


Whoa-ho-ho! I see you like to come out swinging, B. :D

OK, how about this?

Kevin Bacon appeared with Jack Lemmon in “JFK”
Jack Lemmon appeared with Edward G. Robinson in “Good Neighbor Sam”
Edward G. Robinson appeared with Lionel Barrymore in “Key Largo”

Now, can you tie them together in just two movies? If not, I'd win a point for this round, but you'd get to name another pair.
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby pubjohn47 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:22 am

Jeffreydan wrote:We could also trade chicken recipes and discuss woodworking techniques.

(Just kidding--PJ got scolded and deleted by Sinatra the last time he saw the diversion stuff, so honoring the rule might be good on our end, too.)


Jeff is trying to follow the forum rules. Good for you Jeff
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby pubjohn47 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:32 am

dariovinny62 wrote: Pubjohn47 is way overannoying with these military industrial complex lectures. [I know, THAT is an understatement]. He [almost] wrecked one of my first threads with this non-stop idiocy. So I'm not opposed to your idea. In fact, I think a little payback is in order.

Dave


If the American public fails to notice the "elephant in the room" then we will always be a second or third rate country in almost every area of a healthy, happy and a secure life, compared to other developed countries in the world.

The worst part of the yearly trillion dollar looting of the treasury by the bloated, corrupt, greedy, wasteful military/industrial pork laden, corporate welfare, entitlement complex is that the blow back policies created result in adverse consequences for the average American as seen on 9/11
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Re: Why the yearly trillion dollar looting is not questioned

Unread postby bruno » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:47 pm

dariovinny62 wrote:If not, I'd win a point for this round, but you'd get to name another pair.

OK, I think you've won this round. How about Carrie Fisher and Dustin Hoffman?
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