Obamas arrogance

by **Katie** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:44 pm

I watched Bernie on Fox tonight and was so glad to hear him speak on the birth certificate issue and confirm what I already thought. Obama and his cabinet are showing the nation they don't intend to do anything they wish not to do. Our Constitution still means much to most of the citizens of this nation and he seems to step all over it at every turn. I also believe the man was born in the US but he is the one who started this issue by refusing to present his legal BC so all citizens can be assured he is what he claims. He apparently has so little regard and respect for the public that he is making a childish game out of a serious matter. It is funny how the lies always flow like honey until someone gets into office and the ugly truth begins to show.

I get sick and tired of the media drama queens and kings expressing their views and pounding anyone who does not agree. Fox has gotten just as bad as the rest and many of the commentators seem to think they are 'legends'. I have never seen anyone who could toot their horn louder or longer than O'Reiley now seems driven to do regularly. I once liked and trusted him but that is a thing of the past. Lou Dobbs has the right to express his views and Obama could stop the carnival side show he started by revealing his legal BC to WE THE PEOPLE who have the right to see it. I admire Dobbs for not bowing down to opposition and hope he continues on until Obama honors the Constitution and the deserving citizens of this nation. It takes a real man to stand by his convictions.

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by **Media Rookie** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:24 am

I have to disagree. I do not believe that BHO isn't showing his BC due to arrogance but to be politically savvy. He knows that most dems will correlate the birthers with conservatives and repubs. HE can use this in the future. If he produces his BC all that will go away. He needs EVERYONE on the right to look like nut cases b/c he certainly won't be able to defend his own actions in 3 years.

I was so glad when Bernie stated this last night, and yes I have to admit, I was a bit irked by O'Reilly last night while Bernie was on.

I have never seen anyone who could toot their horn louder or longer than O'Reiley now seems driven to do regularly.

I see your point, but first people need to realize that when it comes to opinion shows, a certain amount of hubris is needed to succeed. It depends on the viewer to decide if they can stomach it. It's the "reporters" and "newscasters" that drive me nuts when they sneak their views into what is supposed to be the news.

by **Katie** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:19 pm

Well Rookie, I don't know how you can miss the overwhelming arrogance of his entire cabinet but that is your call. You must have missed the the time he was addressing a crowd and held up two fingers on each hand as mock quotation marks when using the term "tea parties" while speaking in a condescending tone. He was openly making jest of those who go out and exercise their right to peaceful assembly and freedom of speech. Also, news casters are becoming a thing of the past and they now see themselves as demi-gods whose opinions are above the common person. I only watched to see Bernie and hear what was being said about Lou Dobbs. I do agree that he is using his withholding of the BC for political reasons but arrogance again plays a role as he is trying to show his superiority, which is a figment of his own imagination.

by **Sara123** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:38 pm

The media "shut up" coverage of the natural born citizen question is very similar to their coverage of Clinton's perjury problem. I think they are very frightened for this case to get standing in court and for a judge to look at Obama's qualification for the job. Major Cook sued Obama when he was called to active duty to prove his qualification for the office and the judge gave him standing as an active duty military officer. Suddenly Obama's DOD releases the Major from active duty and the Major loses standing to sue Obama. As this shocking case was making rounds on the Internet and picking up steam, all of a sudden the media goes into hysterics totally misrepresenting the "birther's" case for questioning Obama's constitutional qualifications.

I think we have another legal problem here and the whole Establishment has permitted it to occur. None of them want to be exposed for disregarding the constitution as they have done by not gaining access to qualifying documents needed to certify Obama as a candidate. The liberals do not care if people stream over the border; they don't care if people are legal to qualify for American benefits and they don't even care if a foreigner is the President of the US. They think the US is "the world" not a nation and they think "the world" does not have the rule of law that the Nation has in it's constitution.

The truth is going to come out - one way or another. If he's qualified, that is fine but he is causing a lot of trouble for the DOD by playing games with the question for no reason. He just needs to prove, like all of us have to do when required to provide a notarized copy of our BIRTH CERTIFICATE by the State Department birthers in order to get a passport. Obama and the political class are not above the rest of us citizens!

The media is game playing here and playing on the American public's ignornance of the constitution. Many idiots beleive that just being a citizen of the US qualifies one to be President. Fidel Castro's son could come over illegally and wait for the next amnesty, become a citizen and then run for President! It is like when the media covered up Clinton's crime of perjury claiming the impeachment was "all about sex" and "everyone lies about sex" without mentioning he lied in a court of law, which is a crime for everyone else in the US.

by **Katie** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:47 pm

Sara, you are absolutely correct and you hit on something that few have seen. The courts are afraid to handle this hot issue because they don't know how all of this will play out. If they rule in favor of Obama and later it is found he is NOT a natural born citizen it will be their asses on the line. None of them has the backbone to rule against him so they sit on the fence and do nothing.

Those idiots in Washington do not trust one another and I am sure they constantly have to watch their own backs while conspiring against the working tax paying class. Eventually their house of cards will fall and you will see a dog eat dog fest like this world has never seen. It is scary as hell to know we don't have to look to another nation for enemies that wish to destroy us. Our own government is by far the worst enemy we have at this point and sadly we have allowed those liars and thugs to take our rights and freedoms by the handfuls.

I do have faith in the American spirit and I hope with all my heart that when push comes to shove the citizens will get enough and push and shove far harder than those maniacs ever thought to do. You do know that CNN announced that FEMA will be using American troops to help them this fall in the fake swine flu epidemic vaccines!!! That is totally against our Constituion and our troops should stand down and refuse to comply. People need to research the 1976 'pandemic' vaccine disaster and the law suits that were flying due to horrid side effects. This time the government has given complete immunity to the drug companies and all involved in the vaccine program and none can be sued. How is that for protection for the citizens? We will be forced to take something that can kill or maim and will not have the right to refuse or sue for damages if they occur.

by **andeemac** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:52 pm

It is scary as hell to know we don't have to look to another nation for enemies that wish to destroy us. Our own government is by far the worst enemy we have at this point and sadly we have allowed those liars and thugs to take our rights and freedoms by the handfuls.

What serious Rights and Freedoms are these Katie????

we don't have to look to another nation for enemies that wish to destroy us

Your right on this one, Wall street very nearly destroyed America as we know it, if it wasn't for the Obama administration Bailing out AIG and a load of Banks, Our whole financial system would have collapsed like a Pack of cards, and we would have been in a Depression the likes not seen since the 1930's
If you dont agree contact Bernie and ask his opinion

George Bush's appointee Alan Greenspan didnt help either, Question do you think that 2000 - 2008 were the Glory years Katie

by **Hessienda** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:55 pm

Wait a minute andeemac, you can't have it both ways.

I agree that Bush and Greenspan didn't help matters but they were already doing the bailout thing. Hell, they beat Baroke to that punch. You can't gripe about one and credit the other when they both did the same thing.

by **NealSummers** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:02 am

You guys really believe this birther nonesense?

The president has produced his birth certificate and it has been found to be legitimate by, well, everyone except birthers.

You do realize that birthers are moonbats like 9/11 truthers, right?

by **Media Rookie** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:23 am

NealSummers wrote:You guys really believe this birther nonesense?

The president has produced his birth certificate and it has been found to be legitimate by, well, everyone except birthers.

You do realize that birthers are moonbats like 9/11 truthers, right?

You guys? Who are you asking, all posters on this board? There is a variety of political views n this site, so you shouldn't stereotype. I personally could care less about the issue. The thought of Biden becoming president due to lack of vetting frightens more me than a Kenyan running (for a lack of a better term) our country. And don't forget that the birth of the birther movement is a dem.

by **NealSummers** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:28 pm

Media Rookie wrote:
NealSummers wrote:You guys really believe this birther nonesense?

The president has produced his birth certificate and it has been found to be legitimate by, well, everyone except birthers.

You do realize that birthers are moonbats like 9/11 truthers, right?

You guys? Who are you asking, all posters on this board? There is a variety of political views n this site, so you shouldn't stereotype. I personally could care less about the issue. The thought of Biden becoming president due to lack of vetting frightens more me than a Kenyan running (for a lack of a better term) our country. And don't forget that the birth of the birther movement is a dem.

Even if the founder was a Democrat, the birther movement found its home amongst Republicans. Its Republicans and conservatives who keep pushing this idiocy. I certainly don't believe for a minute that every person here is a birther, but it simply astonishes me that anyone in their right mind can believe it considering that there is no proof of it. All the questions have been asked and answered, all the documents produced and verified.

by **Jayfeather** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:10 pm

I think it's not too bad Obama got elected. It just goes to show that America is equal oppertuniny, they elected a mentaly retarded president! I was kidding about it "not being too bad", he can't even talk without his teleprompter. I swear, if they put up the words, "I'm a liar" he would read it, with no hesitation whatsoever! I am 13 years old and I can see through his sham! Just goes to show how little Americans notice, or care, about what he is doing.

by **Media Rookie** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:26 am

Jayfeather wrote:I think it's not too bad Obama got elected. It just goes to show that America is equal oppertuniny, they elected a mentaly retarded president! I was kidding about it "not being too bad", he can't even talk without his teleprompter. I swear, if they put up the words, "I'm a liar" he would read it, with no hesitation whatsoever! I am 13 years old and I can see through his sham! Just goes to show how little Americans notice, or care, about what he is doing.

Jay, it's nice to see young people involved, Welcome. I will have to disagree with your last statement. It's not that Americans didn't care or notice, but that we as a nation have been trying to pay for the sins of our father's (so to speak) regarding slavery. Even tho our nation had the shortest of tenures in that department, it is the only tactic the left has left. Even during the election of 08 the left still had a bit of a monopoly on the media and therefore were able to shape a narrative regarding out President. So yes there were many ridiculous reasons why Obama was voted in but he was voted in nonetheless.

Luckily that monopoly is falling and falling fast. People are awake and aware now and if there is anything positive from the administration being in power is that they have unified those on the right and have shown what lefty policies can destroy. I am personally optimistic that we will be able to roll back many of the atrocities thrust upon us in the last couple of years.

And if you disagree, I daresay the Tea Parties are proof of that said awakening.

by **naz** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:44 pm

You are all such idiot!

Bernie, dont mess with Jon Stewart if you and your loyal idiots dont want to lose any remaining independents you might have moving towards your wasted cause.

A soldier.

by **Japanklet** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:03 pm

Folks, from what I can tell, Naz intended the above post to appear in one of the other forums. Five minutes after he made it, he must have realized his error and made a similar post in the correct forum, but he forgot (or didn't know how) to come back and delete this one. I don't think he was directing his "idiot" charge to any of us, but to Mr. Goldberg. At least, I believe that's the case.

Japanklet

by **Tim03** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:16 pm

Agree with the statement made by the op, just wanted to stop by to say that I agree!