Our bodies may be regulated by cannabinoids

[flyohiou]

yes, exactly. it's no secret that people vote on their own cynical values. would you like it if someone would not allow you to make your own choices about your life (as long as you're not hurting anyone)?


besides, the majority of the people don't vote so it's not like this vote is a perfect sampling of citizen attitudes. federal law trumps this bill anyway. just ask california who keeps arresting dying cancer patients. f bomb them though, right? they're breaking the law!

[Attilathehungry]

yes, exactly. it's no secret that people vote on their own cynical values. would you like it if someone would not allow you to make your own choices about your life (as long as you're not hurting anyone)?


besides, the majority of the people don't vote so it's not like this vote is a perfect sampling of citizen attitudes. federal law trumps this bill anyway. just ask california who keeps arresting dying cancer patients. f bomb them though, right? they're breaking the law!

And who do you think you are to judge opponents for what you allege are "their own cynical values"? You have no idea what the motivations are for even some--much less most--to oppose the proposal. You are an elitist of the worst kind--plain and simple. Thanks for proving it once and for all.

Yes, I'm fully aware that federal law would trump a legalization effort in any state anyway, but that's not the point. I've always maintained that MJ legalization should be a decision best made at the state level. Just because it's [probably] not going to happen this year, doesn't mean I've changed my position one iota with respect to state's rights.

And I'm not against MJ for legitimate medical reasons. If you ever bothered to read my posts you'd know that already. As you already know, I take a much different stance on casual use. I won't bother to explain why because I've already done that ad nauseum. If any segment of the public can't be swayed that it's in our best interests to legalize MJ for recreational purposes, then it's sensible not to alter that policy.

[flyohiou]

do you even know the definition of an elitist? you're the one claiming majority rules

would you like it if someone would not allow you to make your own choices about your life (as long as you're not hurting anyone)?

[Ed S]

I love it when they say it is a victimless crime and non violent, how amusing.
Every time a person buys illegal drugs he/she is supporting the mob. They also support the Mexican drug gangs and the Colombian drug lords. A major amount of MJ come across the Mexican border.

The damn drug rehabs are full of addicts who will never contribute to society. These people are like parasites, they don't work or pay taxes and are either in government financed programs that do not work or they are incarcerated.

Shop lifting runs rampant in big cities due to addicts, they steal and become violent when deprived of their drugs.

Now asshole I am a cancer patient and I do not smoke dope. The fact of the matter is I don't take any drugs at this point. Should that become necessary I will take what is prescribed. You seem to have all of the answers the only problem is your answers are wrong.

Like I told you before should I catch anybody selling drugs to my grand kids it will be very bad for them.

[flyohiou]

Every time a person buys illegal drugs he/she is supporting the mob. They also support the Mexican drug gangs and the Colombian drug lords. A major amount of MJ come across the Mexican border.

if you legalized drugs, you'd put all drug pushers out of a job

[Ed S]

Every time a person buys illegal drugs he/she is supporting the mob. They also support the Mexican drug gangs and the Colombian drug lords. A major amount of MJ come across the Mexican border.

if you legalized drugs, you'd put all drug pushers out of a job

They legalized liquor and they still make the white stuff.

If drugs were legal for adults the dealers would sell to minors. I don't know where you were raised but your street smarts are lacking.

[flyohiou]

dealers are selling them to minors now. drugs are easier to obtain than alcohol since drug dealers do not check for ID

i didn't use my street smarts to know that. it's just common sense

[Ed S]

i didn't use my street smarts to know that. it's just common sense

I think you are lacking in the common sense department. You really don't think the whole problem out. You are like the rest of the libs out there who want instant gratification regardless of the cost to others.

[flyohiou]

a personal attack when you can't refute my point? i'm shocked!

regardless of the cost to others

so alcohol prohibition was a good thing for this country?

[Attilathehungry]

do you even know the definition of an elitist? you're the one claiming majority rules

Fly, an elitist is a member of a certain group who believe they deserve favored treatment or their views should prevail over others by virtue of their self-proclaimed superiority. Since you hold to the asinine belief that your views on MJ legalization are what policy should be based on and actually denigrate the viewpoint of the majority who oppose you, that makes you "an elitist of the worst kind".

Sorry if the truth hurts or you yet again can't grasp a simple concept, but you're a big boy and will simply have to cope with it somehow.

[steve1633]

The reason that most Americans would vote against marijuana legalization (and the reason that, unfortunately, CO and NV will probably not pass their bills) is that the government spends millions of dollars every year to "teach" lies about marijuana to our children. That means that, if you assume 1/3 of the pop tries marijuana, 2/3 of the population's perception of marijuana is based solely on complete lies that they have every reason to belieive considering that it was taught by their teacher or a uniformed police officer. I guarantee you that if the true effects, both negative and positive, of marijuana were taught to our children marijuana would be legal within a generation.

The bill in CO is simply saying that we, as a society, recognize that alcohol is a drug that responsible adults should be allowed to use for recreational purposes. We also know that this drug is more harmful to the body, mind, and general society than marijuana. The logical conclusion from those two facts is that marijuana should also be made available for responsible adults to use for recreational purposes. Basically, pot smoking adults are sick of their (less harmful) drug of choice being illegal, they feel they have the right to enjoy their intoxicants just like everyone else.

I link to the NORML website because it is a good database of marijuana related information. NORML rarely writes any of their own articles, the last link is to NORML's database of medical research on marijuana. The second link I directed you too is from a peer-reviewed medical journal. NORML is just the best website I know for getting up to date marijuana news from all over the world.

Ed, your arguments just get worse and worse. There are approximately ZERO (0) addicts in rehab for marijuana. Marijuana is not addictive so a marijuana addict couldn't exist. Also, legalizing marijuana obviously wouldn't stop illegal sales of marijuana but it would reduce them. Are they making as much moonshine now as they did during prohibition? No. And the same would happen with marijuana. And at least if it was regulated it would be harder for minors to get it. But I guess you're just too imature to understand that.

[Ed S]

I never said that there were MJ users in rehab, you are the guys that stated you have tried other stuff.

Please if you are going to call me immature at least spell it right dummy.

[flyohiou]

do you even know the definition of an elitist? you're the one claiming majority rules

Fly, an elitist is a member of a certain group who believe they deserve favored treatment or their views should prevail over others by virtue of their self-proclaimed superiority. Since you hold to the asinine belief that your views on MJ legalization are what policy should be based on and actually denigrate the viewpoint of the majority who oppose you, that makes you "an elitist of the worst kind".

Sorry if the truth hurts or you yet again can't grasp a simple concept, but you're a big boy and will simply have to cope with it somehow.

that makes no sense! in what way do i think i deserve favored treatment when the minority is asking for equal treatment? the superiority look down their nose at marijuana smokers and think they are better than those who do partake. they also hold law and control over the users. that's elitist

Please if you are going to call me immature at least spell it right dummy.

if you're going to call someone a, "dummy" at least get the punctuation correct, dummy.

[steve1633]

I love it when they say it is a victimless crime and non violent, how amusing.
Every time a person buys illegal drugs he/she is supporting the mob. They also support the Mexican drug gangs and the Colombian drug lords. A major amount of MJ come across the Mexican border.

The damn drug rehabs are full of addicts who will never contribute to society. These people are like parasites, they don't work or pay taxes and are either in government financed programs that do not work or they are incarcerated.

Shop lifting runs rampant in big cities due to addicts, they steal and become violent when deprived of their drugs.

There you go Ed, that's where you said (or at least implied) that rehabs were full of marijuana addicts. You may argue that you were talking about other drugs, however in that case you're just a moron for thinking that somehow the societal effects of other drugs would help you form a legitimate argument against marijuana. This has been your tactic this whole time, lump marijuana in with heroin and meth and ya it starts to make sense to keep marijuana illegal. If you could get past your own imature notions about anything the government saying being true you would see that marijuana is a seperate drug from heroin, speed, alcohol or really any other narcotic and therefor should be analysed on its own merits in terms of legality.

[Lonewolfe2015]

i have and do write my elected officials. just because people have customs that you do not approve, does not mean that i should not be allowed to voice my opinion. this is america, remember?

i can't believe someone in law enforcement (if you consider mall securit to be law enforcement) has the opinion that people should not be able to exercise their constitutional rights. what laws were you enforcing if not the most basic ones?


i don't like your opinions. maybe you should go away

Here you claim you have rights.

You want to smoke it smoke it but do us all a favor and shut up about it.

we'll shut up about it when we have freedom and equal rights

Here you claim you dont. Which is it?