Ted Nugent and Mother Jones

[Dan Foley]

What does the frothing left think of the Motor City Madman? I'll give you three guesses. Or, just check out my adventures at Mother Jones on the topic: http://wfnt.com/adventures-in-la-la-lan ... her-jones/

[WeaponOfMassInstruction]

Visiting the Mother Jones website is clearly going behind enemy lines. I'm not sure whether I should laud your heroism or question your sanity.....

Ted Nugent is a victim of the Left-endorsed double standards hypocrisy. Bill Maher can say incredibly disgusting things about Sarah Palin and he gets a total pass from the media elites; Rush uses harsh rhetoric about Sandra Fluke and the same media elites call for his firing, attack his sponsors and target the owners of his syndacation network and the owners of the stations on which he broadcasts. Nugent made the same mistake that Rush did- he used the language of the Left against them, and that cannot be tolerated from anyone on the Right.

I suspect that there are more conservatives in the entertainment industry than we suppose, but they are as firmly in the closet as any gays ever were and do not dare reveal their ideology for fear of actual blacklisting at the hands of editors, studio heads and record company execs. For all the Left's blather about them being targeted for persecution, the actual threat is from them, not towards them.

[Dan Foley]

Maybe a little of both...I guess I'm a sniper at heart. Doh!!! Shouldn't a said that! Anyway, it was a lot of fun.

[Cap'n Billy]

Ted Nugent is a victim of the Left-endorsed double standards hypocrisy.

I doubt if Nugent would consider himself a victim, even after some lapdog (Oops! Here we go with the dogs again) military commander cancelled a performance by him, an appearance that I strongly suspect Nugent was doing gratis. Would that there were more like him who recognizes that person and political party for what they are and has the gumption to say so.

I agree with every word he said about that president, who is a disgrace to this country, and everyone who voted for him disgraced themselves. Even if he's voted out this November the damage that he did to this country will not be repaired in the lifetimes of most posters here. If he wins, this republic is but a fond memory.

[Dan Foley]

John Daly has a good piece on Bernie's front page right now. Sure, he was speaking metaphorically, but metaphorically over the top. If he hadn't gone too far, the secret service wouldn't have dropped by. Ted himself understood and welcomed them cordially, which is part of his charm. As he put it in an interview I think with Beck, he pointed out the lefties were getting all worked up by comments from the guy who wrote "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang." That's funny...but does it mean we're supposed to keep in mind that he's the author of Wang Dang Sweet Poontang when he's talking politics? If Lady Gaga supported Romney and made some valid points it would still come with the meat suit. Or Jesse Ventura...ughhh. Over the top...gotta be to perform in the WWE (or was the WWF...) and that has some appeal, but that doesn't make you a good governor, or an expert on 9/11.

I don't know, I think Nugent does help Romney because there are folks he appeals to who aren't convinced that Romney would be any better than Obama. But he was pushin it...

[tim.ned@gmail.com]

I don't know, I think Nugent does help Romney because there are folks he appeals to who aren't convinced that Romney would be any better than Obama. But he was pushin it...

Dan, there are so many "over-the-top" comments in today's world that I am quite surprise that Nugent's comments ever made the press. Watch MSNBC for an evening! Every hour is over the top so the question is; why does Ted's comments get so much press?

[Dan Foley]

MSNBC for a WHOLE evening? Nuh uh!

Uncle Ted himself was fine with the Secret Service visit. Of course they check it out; that's their job. That alone makes it a story. Wang Dang Sweet Poontang, wouldn't get noticed in today's music world. But, mix one part Poontang with one part presidential politics, serve it up at the NRA convention and you got a story. Nugent is serious about the issues, he's also an old gonzo rock-n-roller, and, most importantly, he's a gonzo CONSERVATIVE, an extraordinarily rare combination. Put them all together and that's different. Makes it a story.

I thought Daly's article was on track. I think Nugent can help Romney, but it's fairly limited; it will really only help with those who aren't convinced that Romney will go far enough to make a difference. But I don't think there are many people hesitant enough about Romney on the conservative side that they wouldn't support him to get rid of Obama, without reassurance from the likes of the Nuge. So his value is limited, especially if he hurts Romney with the faint of heart. And the MSNBC/Media Matters types will look for EVERYTHING to help exaggerate such a difficulty. On Fox News Sunday, Karl Rove ratified Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard editorial. Romney's people need to poach from those who VOTED for Obama last time out. You don't rub their nose in their own stupidity for having done so. 'You might have voted for him, but it's not your fault; perfectly understandable that you fell for his bill of goods...a lot of other fine people did too.'

And now for something completely different: http://wfnt.com/robots-who-need-robots- ... st-robots/

[WeaponOfMassInstruction]

I'm not convinced that a celebrity endorsement matters all that much for voters on the Right, but I have absolutely no doubt that it means a great deal to voters on the Left, as it contrasts the difference between "thinking" (done by the Right) and "feeling" (done by the Left).

[Dan Foley]

I understand your skepticism, WOMI. It's of limited value, I agree. But there were a good number of thinking republicans on display while the primary raged with doubts about Romney who worry he will not make a difference if elected. (I confess I had a bit of a thing for the Newtster...) They won't vote for Obama, but they may not vote for Romney if they think it doesn't matter. He's just a smooth talking politician who doesn't believe anything, who will say anything to get elected. Romney's whole strategy for the primary fed this perception. Play it safe, head down, run as the inevitable, don't make waves...

Who better to combat THIS perception than the Motor City Madman? 'Think it makes no difference who you vote for this fall? Think again my friends!' But, you know, in "wango tang" language. It's not so much Uncle Ted's celebrity that helps, as the gonzo persona that fed (and still feeds) his celebrity. Could also hurt. Still say the net effect is at least +1, Romney.

And now for something completely different. I'm the "brand manager" for a news talk radio station in Flint Michigan, 1470AM WFNT. Working to build the website, (not literally, it's built and looks fantastic, but content wise) wfnt.com Eyeballs and comments much appreciated. Need thoughtful conservative voices to join the fray. Please email me if you'd be interested in contributing as an author: dan.foley@townsquaremedia.com Or you can facebook me.

On a science (sorta) bender myself lately (reading "Singularity is Near," by Ray Kurzweil): http://wfnt.com/robots-who-need-robots- ... st-robots/ http://wfnt.com/singularity-and-the-new-600-man/

[WeaponOfMassInstruction]

I understand your skepticism, WOMI. It's of limited value, I agree. But there were a good number of thinking republicans on display while the primary raged with doubts about Romney who worry he will not make a difference if elected. (I confess I had a bit of a thing for the Newtster...) They won't vote for Obama, but they may not vote for Romney if they think it doesn't matter. He's just a smooth talking politician who doesn't believe anything, who will say anything to get elected. Romney's whole strategy for the primary fed this perception. Play it safe, head down, run as the inevitable, don't make waves...

I was a Newt fan as well. I'm hoping that President Romney can find a spot in his cabinet for Newt, maybe SecState or NSA.

I was, and remain, rather lukewarm when it comes to Romney. It's not that I can't pull the lever for him, it's that I can't do so with a great deal of enthusiasm. However, I could say the same thing about any of those running for the GOP nomination, with two exceptions: Gingrich, whom I would have enthusiastically supported and Ron Paul, whom I would have a really, REALLY hard time voting for. Paul was the only potential GOP nominee that might cause me to forget to vote in November.

Further, I really hate to be forced into voting against someone rather than for someone, but I am convinced that Obama has done so much damage to this country, despite having a House that has checked some of his more radical impulses, in his first term and is a threat to do even more if we foolishly elect him a second time that I set aside my normal criteria. I'm not sure that the United States can survive another four years of this man, Barack Obama, at least not and emerge recognizably on the other side. I would be surprised if the GOP gained the Senate if Obama won because it would mean that Romney managed to essentially self-destruct, much as McCain did.

Who better to combat THIS perception than the Motor City Madman? 'Think it makes no difference who you vote for this fall? Think again my friends!' But, you know, in "wango tang" language. It's not so much Uncle Ted's celebrity that helps, as the gonzo persona that fed (and still feeds) his celebrity. Could also hurt. Still say the net effect is at least +1, Romney.

I just wonder how relevant he is anymore. Do folks remember who he is? Or, at least, those whose votes might be swayed? As I said, I just don't think that conservatives are as susceptible as are liberals when it comes to having their opinions shaped by celebrities. Last go around, I was a Huckabee supporter, mainly due to his support for the Fair Tax. Chuck Norris supported Huckabee and appeared with him at a local rally. I talked to quite a few people there and I cannot recall a single one telling me that they were backing Huckabee because Norris did. On the flip side, I can see someone like Eva Longoria using her celebrity effectively to change the minds of Hispanics who might be undecided because she can speak their language (even if she rarely says anything of import). That's the thinking with your heart versus with your head comparison.

And now for something completely different. I'm the "brand manager" for a news talk radio station in Flint Michigan, 1470AM WFNT. Working to build the website, (not literally, it's built and looks fantastic, but content wise) wfnt.com Eyeballs and comments much appreciated. Need thoughtful conservative voices to join the fray. Please email me if you'd be interested in contributing as an author: dan.foley@townsquaremedia.com Or you can facebook me.

On a science (sorta) bender myself lately (reading "Singularity is Near," by Ray Kurzweil): http://wfnt.com/robots-who-need-robots- ... st-robots/ http://wfnt.com/singularity-and-the-new-600-man/

I'll wander by and check it out. Always nice to find a new sandbox in which to fight.

[ARJ127]

What does the frothing left think of the Motor City Madman? I'll give you three guesses. Or, just check out my adventures at Mother Jones on the topic: http://wfnt.com/adventures-in-la-la-lan ... her-jones/

As a centrist, I would say, not much. He's an over-the-hill rocker who's lost a few marbles during his career of sex, drugs and rock-n-roll. Another overblown blowhard. Not worth any ink.

[flyphish56]

He's an over-the-hill rocker who's lost a few marbles during his career of sex, drugs and rock-n-roll.

Over the hill? Yeah, but with any luck so will we all be, one day.
Sex? The man is quite likely an addict---certainly a serial cheat, and not nearly as much so as Slick Willie Clinton.-- What's your point?
Rock-n roll? So what?

And last but by no means least, drugs---- Do some freackin' research, drone!!!

[btorocco]

He's an over-the-hill rocker who's lost a few marbles during his career of sex, drugs and rock-n-roll.

And last but by no means least, drugs---- Do some freackin' research, drone!!!

Ted Nugent? Drugs? REALLY, dude? Bill Clinton joining a monastery would be more likely.

[ARJ127]

Ted Nugent? Drugs? REALLY, dude? Bill Clinton joining a monastery would be more likely.

Sure he would. Lots of ugly women ready for some sex. Just his type.