contraception as racism

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contraception as racism

Unread postby jaybear_us » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:46 am

This may be a little rambling, as I haven't yet fully examined this issue - it's still germinating in my mind, so bear with me please.

I've always believed that the left has been able to get away with racism in this country by selling it not as racism, but rather, something the left does "to help the underpriveledged".

I see it in the way welfare used to be before conservatives began restructuring it. The claim was that it was a safety net for those in need, when in fact, it was a means to make minorities dependent on the government and to keep them at the bottom of the economic ladder. I saw it with affirmative action. The claim was that it was meant to help minorities achieve higher education. Only a few voices spoke the truth, which was the mindset of the liberal being that we must help minorities due to the fact that they're inherently inferior and could never compete with whites on a level playing field.

Now, we have the left trying to sell government paid contraception. I've heard what the pundits have said about it - limbaugh, hannity, O'Reilly and others, and I do agree with them that this is another power grab by the left and another attempt to undermine the constitution, as well as changing a losing position (abortion) into what they see as a winning position by claiming that conservatives want to outlaw contraception. But I think they're all missing one big aspect of this issue, and that is the inherent racism as practiced by the left, while selling it, again, as something their doing for women, without mentioning the effect on minorities.

Now, I'll admit I'm no expert on Margaret Sanger, but what little I do know is that she wanted legal abortion in order to control the spread of the black population, the unfit, which she considered blacks to be, the flawed, which she also considered blacks to be, and so on. This contraception issue, I believe, is just another further extension of her philosophy concerning blacks and other minorities. True, there will be many white women who would take advantage of the free contraceptives, but I think it will not be too long before the left starts pushing these contraceptives in the black communities, at clinics, pharmacies, doctors' offices, schools, grocery stores, post offices and so on. The left will, of course, sell it as aiding black women by lifting the economic burden of unaffordable children and the burden single motherhood and so on.

But it's my belief that this is actually another tactic to control the birth rate of blacks in this country and perhaps even lower the black population, which the left truly believes is inferior, unfit, flawed and so on.

As I said, this is just the germ of an idea which I haven't yet fully explored, but so far, this aspect of the contraception issue has not been touched upon by any of the conservative pundits and I do believe that it has some legitimacy. And what a opportunity this could be for conservatives to use against democrats and progressives by turning this issue around and removing the focus that this is about women's health and force the focus on leftist racism instead.
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby btorocco » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Very interesting thought, jay, and may even be entirely true. I myself would not go so far as to say the contraceptive issue is an example of liberal racism for the simple fact that I cannot get into their minds (and who would want to), but it would seem to perfectly fit their style of condescension toward 'lesser' Americans. Their stance on this can also double as a sop to the radical enviro-left that is convinced the world is over-populated. You got it pretty much right on Margaret Sanger, she was a horrible human being at best. The way some people admire her as an icon makes one wonder what they had against Hitler.
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby Cap'n Billy » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:46 pm

jaybear_us wrote:But it's my belief that this is actually another tactic to control the birth rate of blacks in this country and perhaps even lower the black population, which the left truly believes is inferior, unfit, flawed and so on.
One flaw I see in that theory is that why would the left want to control the birth rate of their most reliable constituency, 90% of whom consistently vote Democrat?
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby Media Rookie » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:16 pm

Cap'n Billy wrote:
jaybear_us wrote:But it's my belief that this is actually another tactic to control the birth rate of blacks in this country and perhaps even lower the black population, which the left truly believes is inferior, unfit, flawed and so on.
One flaw I see in that theory is that why would the left want to control the birth rate of their most reliable constituency, 90% of whom consistently vote Democrat?


Because they are just arrogant enough and think so lowly of minorities that they, regardless of their numbers, will never leave. Just my two cents. :lol:
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby btorocco » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:41 pm

Cap'n Billy wrote:One flaw I see in that theory is that why would the left want to control the birth rate of their most reliable constituency, 90% of whom consistently vote Democrat?

Good point, Bill, but they probably figure the illegals will make up the difference!
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby jaybear_us » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:35 am

I think that the elite progressives and leftists want large minorities to vote in blocs for their candidates, but they don't want the minorities to get too large. They play the game of how large can a minority get and still be controllable before the size of the minority gets large enough to become independent and uncontrollable.
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby tim.ned@gmail.com » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:03 pm

jaybear_us wrote:I think that the elite progressives and leftists want large minorities to vote in blocs for their candidates, but they don't want the minorities to get too large. They play the game of how large can a minority get and still be controllable before the size of the minority gets large enough to become independent and uncontrollable.


Jay, if you want to stir the pot up, find one of your good elite progressives friends and strike up a general conversation pertaining to population control and ask for their opinion how this should be handled. You will probably be shocked what comes out of their mouth.
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby btorocco » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:28 pm

tim.ned@gmail.com wrote:Jay, if you want to stir the pot up, find one of your good elite progressives friends and strike up a general conversation pertaining to population control and ask for their opinion how this should be handled. You will probably be shocked what comes out of their mouth.

I wouldn't. :!:
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby treadmill » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:38 pm

I definitely agree that, in current America, "liberal racism" is the main problem, not racism from the right (equally insidious when it exists). I beg to disagree, however, with the point that liberals are being deliberately "racist". In fact, any liberal would faint at the thought that anyone would perceive them as being "prejudiced". Liberal racism is much more nuanced (in line with the fact that liberals, in general, are preoccupied with "nuance"). In other words, being prejudiced is just a part of being a modern day liberal. They think they are actually "doing good" . Most White liberal elites truly do believe they are better than people of color. Just ask them how many Black friends they have, or have had over to their homes lately. While some regular conservative folks (people also seen as inferior by liberals) might throw around the "N' word, liberals would really follow through on the implications of such a slur (but smile and keep their true thoughts to themselves while doing it). This is done by automatically concluding that a person of color needs THEIR help in order to succeed. In this respect, they are like vampires using minorities in order to satisfy their own need for "social issue" approval by their peers. I will go further: this whole Whitney Houston event over the weekend, where Hollywood stars were seen openly weeping in the audience, was more about them showing off their "race cred" than any real empathy for a tragic human being or a real woman who met tragedy.

So, how does this relate to "contraception"? Liberals value racial minorities only in so far as it provides THEM with a platform to lecture the rest of society, thump their chests and proclaim how much superior they are when compared to the rest of us in "fly over country". The thought that the majority of lives lost through contraception and abortion will be minority children is not an issue to them because it does not fit their narrative. Bottom line: ITS ALL ABOUT THEM. Providing a "hand out" rather than a "hand up" keeps millions in poverty so liberals can retain a cause to fight for - and a platform for their selfish ego driven goals.
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Re: contraception as racism

Unread postby robin in fl » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:51 pm

I am for anything that stops people ,be they black, white or purple ,from multiplying like rats in an already overpopulated world.And it seems to always be the people that can least afford it that multiple like this.I actually believe many do it on purpose because for every child they have they will get more assistance from the government...be in more food stamps,more earned income credit, Subsidized housing,free school stuff,(breakfast,lunch,supplies) ,free Chritmas stuff through charities..the list can go on and on.

If you can not support your kids,just DON'T have them...ok,one time it happens,you get a pass,or if you fall on hard times one year and need some help that year,BUT if you make continual stupid choices and just keep doing it,it's NOT my fault.Though I still believe some people do this way of life as just the line of work they are in.Some woman may think they are here to be human brood mares and a way to make an income..who knows??? and even if offered birth control would not even use it.And yes I have seen both black and whites do just that.

Is this a politically correct or incorrect stance??? I don't know and at this point I just DON'T care.

I am tired of walking on egg shells like some people feel the need to do now a days ,just so they do not offend someone ..Why even have a brain and original thought if you must do that.

If Brad and Angelina want to have and adopt 100 kids,let em'..at least the can support them.
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