Obama: The MOST Divisive?

[WeaponOfMassInstruction]

Is Barack Obama the most divisive President in modern US history?

Check out the results from this- of all places- CNN poll:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/cnn-poll-obama-ranks-low-among-recent-incumbents/

His overall approval rating stands at 46%, with 52% disapproving.

Among whites, his approval/disapproval is 36%/61%; among non-whites, it is 67%/28%.

75% of Democrats support him, while only 15% and- most troubling for him- only 42% of independents support him.

Women support him 48%/44%; men reject him 55%/43%.

What I take from that is, when it comes to Barack Obama, there is no middle ground. You are either smitten with him or reject him utterly. Is that not the definition of "divisive?

World English Dictionary
divisive (dɪˈvaɪsɪv)

— adj
1. causing or tending to cause disagreement or dissension

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/divisive

Why yes...yes it is.

But is the news even that good for Mr. Obama? Perhaps not:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/11/15/rel18c.pdf

Interviews with 1,036 adult Americans conducted by telephone
by ORC International on November 11-13, 2011. The margin of
sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or
minus 3 percentage points. The sample also includes 925
interviews among registered voters (plus or minus 3 percentage
points) and 480 Republicans and Independents that lean
Republican (plus or minus 4.5 percentage points).

Now perhaps I am misreading this but it appears to me that, if 1036 people total were surveyed and 480 of them were either Republican- or Independent-leaning, then they dramatically oversampled Democrats to the tune of 556 people. Remember- that 480 were split between Republicans and Independents. So if I am reading this correctly, the sample was 240 Republicans, 240 Independents....and 556 Democrats, or a split of (roughly) 21%/21%/58%.

"Fair and balanced" indeed.

The CNN story goes on to say that, at this point in their Presidencies, only the hapless Gerald Ford and the completely incompetent Jimmy Carter had lower approval ratings than does Mr. Obama- and they had to dishonestly oversample Democrats to get to even that level of support.

But there is a bright side to that little nugget of information: both Ford and Carter were one-term Presidents.

May history repeat itself.

[flyphish56]

All the info referenced in weap's post being accurate, and viewing the political dynamics of the past 3-4 years, I presonally believe that Mr O has planned and implemented a detailed and Extremely well thought out program INTENDED to divide the nation as much as possible.
There are those on this site that will scoff and call me a loon for saying so, but I believe in my heart of hearts that if he cannot acomplish the goals of his insanely radical faction via the ballot he would be quite happy to see those goals shoved down our throats by force. Including force of arms if he feels he can get away with it.

Some here hint at this possiblity as an academic/intellectual exersise.
I see it as a Very Real possiblity. I believe that there is a very real chance that in my lifetime the Second amendment will be pushed to its ultimate evolution.

I could like to be wrong, but will damned sure be ready.

[WeaponOfMassInstruction]

Frankly, I am hoping that someone will do the research to correct my perception of the above poll because a part of me honestly wants to believe that no one would be that blatant about deliberately skewing polling data to fit a preconceived and desired template.

Well, no one but the good folks at Media Matters and MSNBC- you know, Soros front groups like them.

To your point, fly.... I do believe that Obama would have no trouble with supporting the OWS Useful Idiots so long as he, with the aid of the MSM, could ensure that he has plausible deniability should violence in the movement expand. It's pretty clear that Soros and his various front groups are funnelling tons of money to the various Occutards, just as he does various Democrat Party organs. The MSM won't report on that.

But let's face it....Democrats have long been the architechs of the politics of identity. Democrats see people as white or black, rich or poor, gay or straight, male or female and only incidentially, if then, as Americans. The only way that they can increase their power is to set the various groups against one another. In this, Obama is nothing new, though he does bring the protective shell of his skin color that he uses well and often to sheild himself from his critics and thus is able to make the chasm between groups wider and deeper than perhaps anyone who has come before him. Not only that, but I do think that Obama actually buys into this warped ideology rather than pay it mere lip service like Clinton did. Rare is the individual who can immerse himself for so long and so deeply in Marxist rhetoric and theory and then reject it and Obama is not among those few (I'm thinking of David Horowitz as one who could and did).

Would Obama encourage violence? I don't think he would directly. But at the same time I don't think that he would shed many tears if violence was done in the name of his Cause, which is, if you'll remember, to reshape America.

[flyphish56]

Would Obama encourage violence? I don't think he would directly. But at the same time I don't think that he would shed many tears if violence was done in the name of his Cause, which is, if you'll remember, to reshape America.

I honestly think the man would relish an incident---provided by ANYONE---that would give him the chance to declare Martial Law and begin the work he really wants done. The complete dismantlement of our current form of government.
He has told us from the begining of his candidacy that he desires the "Fundimental Transformation" of our nation.
I believe him. I believe Bill Ayers. I believe the "Green Jobs" czar Van Jones. I believe the lunatic that drew her inspiration from the teachings of Mao.
Those people meant then and mean now what they say.
About a year ago ,Weaps, I asked you if you were ready to shoot your neighbor. I know that you thought I was a loon then and probably still do. Just ponder the thought that there are many under the Obama umbrella who would gladly emulate the French of their revolution, the Russians of their revolution and the Chinese of theirs.

I DO NOT want violence, Weaps. I've seen it, been a part of it, and I hate it. But you get to kick the dog only so many times before the dog will attempt to rip your freakin' throat out. And I fear the dog is nearing that point.

[btorocco]

About a year ago ,Weaps, I asked you if you were ready to shoot your neighbor. I know that you thought I was a loon then and probably still do.

I don't think Weap considers you a loon nor do I. A couple knuckleheads I work with have expressed 'philosophical' solidarity with the OWS detritus. I let them know in no uncertain terms that if that solidarity ever became more than 'philosophical' and they found themselves amongst a riotous mob headed toward my house they will also find themselves in my gun sights just like the rest of the trash, and I mean it.

[flyphish56]

if that solidarity ever became more than 'philosophical' and they found themselves amongst a riotous mob headed toward my house they will also find themselves in my gun sights just like the rest of the trash, and I mean it.

BT we are completely in accord in this.
I never thought growing up in this country that I would see a time when I honestly felt that the need might arise where I felt enough fear of my fellow citizens that I could consider such a course of action. But that time has come.
I don't mean fear in the sense of quaking in my boots or any such. But I do fear these lunatics Will attempt to achieve their aims through violence once they realise the ballot box will fail them.
If that does happen I will do everything in my power---everything---to defend the country and the constitution I love.
As stated in my previous post I do not want to see violence in this country. But this dog has been kicked just about one time short of going for the throat.

[btorocco]

But I do fear these lunatics Will attempt to achieve their aims through violence once they realise the ballot box will fail them.If that does happen I will do everything in my power---everything---to defend the country and the constitution I love. As stated in my previous post I do not want to see violence in this country. But this dog has been kicked just about one time short of going for the throat.

Agreed, my friend. These reprobates are kindred spirits to the 'anti-corporate' Maoist rioters in Europe, most notably the UK. I figure it's just a matter of time before they resort to those tactics here. BTW, you mentioned Obama's myriad 'czars' in a previous post; aside from their Marxist philosophies take note that they are almost ALL fierce opponents of the 2nd Amendment. All the better to force socialism on an unarmed populace. P.S. I almost forgot to mention the other day on the news they interviewed one of the Zuccotti Park occutards after the eviction and he said, I quote, "we will be back because this (the park) is ours now". Time to lock n' load.

[robin in fl]

count me in standing with the others that see the world going mad under BO & co.

I am not violent per say,BUT I know when it's time to take a stand.I tell people not to waste amo on target practice now..save it for if and when they may need it,after all ,some of us already know how to use it

[btorocco]

Barack Obama is undoubtedly one of the best president of USAs president, Obama signed economic stimulus legislation in the form of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 and the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act in 2010. Other domestic policy initiatives include the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection ActHe is from a poor family but his ideas have taken US economy to a new height thanks

Funny you sound a lot like someone we all know, either way, my advice to you would be to take the needle out of your arm before you post on this forum.

[Media Rookie]

I deleted the post you commented on, bt, because it was a spammer.

[btorocco]

I deleted the post you commented on, bt, because it was a spammer.

I figured as much. No prob.