Sick of the Rhetoric

Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Bob1958 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:18 pm

Bernie: First off, I enjoy you and most of the time, agree with you, however it is time to have a serious discussion as it relates to the disparity between the rich and the poor. Because of political corruption, NAFTA and other Trade Agreements, corporate America has devastated the middle class America.
Would you like to talk to a father of five who had a nice little business and have seen it destroyed by the money grabbers of this country?
It is not rocket science, since its conception, the financial industry has been trying to dismantle the Glass Act of 1934. Through the contemporaneous creation of the Mortgage Electronic Registration System (MERS), the enactment of the Gramm, Leach, Bliley Act of 1999 and the abolition of the Glass Act, the financial industry has been allowed to bring this country to its knees.
Let’s stopped the rhetorical s bomb and correct the ills of this country. I can do it with ten pieces of paper, not an incoherent multiple thousand page rag.
Let me bullet point the issue for you:
• Our representatives do not represent the American Citizen; they represent their self-serving interest and the autocrats of this country and others around the globe. Solution: A contingent of middle class citizens sit in congress and no law is passed without the will of the people;
• A flat tax is all we need instead of this insanity that constantly surrounds the issue. Solution: 30% for all who make a million or more, no deductions; 20% for those who make $250,000 or more; 15% for those who earn $100,000-$250,000 and 10% for all those under $100,000.
• No resources whatsoever for an illegal alien, no school, no medical attention, no food, no jobs and no rental accommodations. Solution: Any person or entity who aids these criminals will be sentenced to a mandatory 25 years in prison;
• No American corporation shall outsource any job, plant or factory whatsoever and the new country slogan is “If It’s Not Made Here, It’s Not Sold Here” becomes effective forthwith.
I know Bernie, this is too simple.
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Bob1958 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:29 am

The Issues
1) Millions of American citizens have been disenfranchised from the American dream and their constitutionally protected right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has been extinguished. We need a full accounting of how many jobs have been lost as a result of outsourcing.
a) The argument has always been as it relates to trade agreements that such activity would create more revenue and therefore more jobs for the American citizen. A bald face lie and we the people always knew that but were made powerless by our representatives.
b) The reality is that while American corporations are breaking earning records as released by the Times, US firms report third quarter earnings close to 2 trillion, the highest ever recorded since the government started keeping track more than 60 years ago while we are in such a deep recession is outrageous.
c) I am not opposed to trade or free trade for that matter, what I am opposed to is the fact that major American corporations have outsourced our plants, factories and jobs to foreign nation and their citizens while the American family is decimated. Civil chaos is rampant, the suicide rate is souring, and the American citizen falls further into despair while the rich get richer at our expense.
d) The politicians sold the people of this country a phony bill of goods and the worst two bills President Clinton signed into law was NAFTA and the Gramm, Leach, Bliley Act. These two bills are responsible for the equitable stripping of our nation.
e) New laws must be enacted to stop the outsourcing of work and all American corporations which operate facilities outside our country must be shutdown forthwith.
f) Corporate America can export any product they like, however those products will be made by American hands here in America.
2) The Dodd-Frank Bill does not do enough to rein in the financial institutions. We need the full protection of the Glass Steagall Act and it must be restored.
a) Wall Street corruption will forever be present because that is the nature of the beast.
b) Severe restrictions must be placed on the money grabbers of this country. The FED must be abolished and America must coin its own money, not private entities.
c) While the American Bankers Association was scheming to abolish the Glass Act and knew they were going to succeed, a serious question was at issue; how do we circumvent the recording fees and state law and steal billions of dollars from all the counties throughout the country as it relates to the exorbitant amount of toxic loans they would write.
d) In comes MERS, the Mortgage Electronic Registration System. A quote from the powers at work in the creation of MERS; “After nearly four years on the drawing board, Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc., (MERS®), is a reality. MERS® is the result of an industry effort to reduce the need for mortgage assignments in the residential mortgage market and thus increase efficiency and reduce costs. MERS® will act as mortgagee of record for any mortgage loan registered on the computer system MERS® maintains, called the MERS® System”.
e) Their scheme is evident from the documents I have in my possession and the statement supra says it all.
3) The illegal alien invasion is the next issue that needs immediate and decisive action. There are many who would play on our good nature and they try to guilt us into caving in to the notion we must make the criminal alien legal.
a) I have considered the plight of the illegal alien; in all good conscience I must say if you want to effect a change, go back to your own country, burn and spit on your flag, protest at your own capital and make a change there. This is America, you are not citizens here and you are a drain on the American citizen and have become a plague and blight on our society as a whole.
b) You have invaded our country unchecked and the responsible parties are our representative’s, they have aided and abetted you. The Dream Act is just that, A Dream. Take your children and go back to your own country.
c) Solution to this problem: The use of deadly force is now in effect on our boarders, if you cross our boarders you will be shot. Every person in America will carry with them at all times your birth certificate with a raised seal from the city or town you were born. At every encounter with any law enforcement agent whatsoever, the certificate will be shown; we the legal citizens must show our birth certificates at every crossroad, to obtain a license, to obtain a passport, to open a bank account for our children, when we would fly to US territories a birth certificate had to be produced. Never was there a question as to the constitutionality of such process.
d) All legal citizens are now mandated reporters and when you come across an individual who cannot produce a legitimate birth certificate you will immediately call the appropriate law enforcement agencies for that person’s immediate deportation.
e) Take your children and go home. Fight for your rights in your country not ours because you have no legal rights HERE.
f) What does it truly cost our nation to take care of the illegal alien; what does it cost in jobs, school, food, social services and every resource they use up. Let’s take a conservative estimate: If there are 15 million illegals, say $40,000 per year, for the lack taxes in our coffers, the amount it cost the tax payer to send them to school, the amount on money each year expended on food stamps, welfare and section 8 housing, the staggering conservative number would be $600,000,000,000 a year. This outrageous abuse while, conservatively, 22 Million American citizen are unemployed, 50 Million are on food stamps and cannot feed their own children. Further, while legal citizens are unemployed, you have unscrupulous employers who would hire these illegals for sub-par wages thereby denying a legal citizen a job at a decent wage.
g) My feelings have nothing to do with race, I do care about the children, however their parents put them in harm’s way when they broke our laws, not me, albeit, they do not take president over my children or my right as a legal citizen to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
To the true American citizen who cares about our nation, keep your eyes open for my upcoming web-site, Restoring America-“The American Citizens Coalition In Congress”.
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Bob1958 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:50 am

No longer will the criminals who run this country piss down my leg and tell me it’s raining!

Bill No: Delegation:

Title of Bill:
The Reclaiming of America

THIS a Bill to Abolish the Criminal Enterprise that is the
Federal Reserve System in the United States and
Other Measures to Correct and Return America to Prosperity;
We are a Self Sufficient Nation:

Our Country is in dire straits and steeped in corruption, as the disparity between the rich and the poor rapidly multiplies, a sixth of the population languishes in poverty, and the dynasty of the Rothschild Family and Corporate America continues through deception, to pilfer all the money they can around the globe and from the citizens of this country, it leaves us no choice but to rebel, therefore, we need to ratify emergency legislation to stop the equitable divesting of our Country and to correct the cesspool that is America.

“Let us/me control the money of a nation, and we care not who makes its laws” was said to be a “maxim” of the House of Rothschild’s, or, even more vaguely, of the “money lenders of the Old World”. This mindset has not changed in over two Hundred Years.
Truer words have never been coined, no pun intended. To all True Americans, Sign this Bill.

There are three major problems facing this Nation:
a) The criminal enterprise that is the Federal Reserve System (FED) and all its Members are repugnant to our freedom, prosperity and our Constitution and have corrupted our political process far too long. Once again the FED has brought this Great Nation to its knees; The FED has robbed and enslaved the populous of this Country since 1913 and the time to shed ourselves of these parasites is now. Hundreds of Thousands of Men and Woman of these United States gave their lives so we could be free from tyranny that was the King of England. A far worse evil still exist and controls the United States and its Citizens through the control of our Currency and forthwith shall cease. No non-America entity shall influence the United States or its laws.
b) The out-sourcing of jobs, the production of our products and the removal of our plants and factories to foreign Nations by Corporate America while American Citizens are starving in the Streets;
c) The Outrageous invasion by illegal aliens who are killing our citizens, and raping our women and children are a crime spree in and of themselves; the other illegal aliens who are not actively involved in violent crimes but that are stealing our jobs and sucking up our recourses where American Citizens are being denied those same recourses;
This Bill will correct and restore America; it will open and create many employment opportunities, it will place the average citizen in a position most have never known, and most importantly, it will remove the bonds of slavery to a monetary system created by private entities of which we have absolutely no control over.
What follows is however harsh, the necessary steps to correct the Ills of this Nation and return America back to the American People (the legal Citizens) and return us to Prosperity and Safety.
Section 1: Notwithstanding any other Federal Statute or Regulation promulgated thereunder, this Bill is intended to restore America within and under the United States Constitution and supersedes any and all statutes. Effective immediately in accord with the United States Constitution, Article I. §§ 8 and 10, the Federal Reserve Bank (FED) and its Board shall be abolished forthwith in the United States. No affiliate of the FED shall lend money of any kind, nor shall they be allowed to trade or sell securities, bonds, MBS, commodities, of any kind, as such that it may adversely affect the American people and this Nation. All Federal Reserve Notes are hereby deemed counterfeit and illegal. The American tax payer nor the United States Government or any agency thereof, shall no longer pay any interest on any debt owed the FED nor shall any debt be paid.
a) No private entity shall ever coin money as prescribed by the United States Constitution in the United States; No citizen shall be made to pay a debt that is not secured by Gold or Silver coined by the United States past or present. Banks and Lending institutions in America shall when needed, borrow its money from the United Sates Government, The Treasury, at a nominal interest rate which will be determined not to be exorbitant; said interest shall be used for the sole purpose for the infra-structure of the United States. New regulations shall be set forth for all lending institutions in United States.
b) It is hereby ordered, the United States Treasury shall mint notes backed by gold, silver or other commodities this nation has at its resources. There shall be a credit slip exchange for all goods and services until such time as the Treasury has circulated an appropriate amount of money to each and every United States Citizen holding Federal Reserve Notes. All such notes shall be swapped out for and equal amount of new Treasury Notes. When our monetary transition is complete, all citizens shall within thirty days pay their Creditors. No foreign person or entity whatsoever shall be allowed to redeem a Federal Reserve Note. No member Bank of the FED shall be allowed to redeem a Federal Reserve Note nor shall any corporate officer of said member Banks be allowed to redeem a Federal Reserve Note. Your wealth shall be stripped as you have stripped ours for the past 200 years.
Section 2) It is hereby ordered that no corporation which is incorporated within the United States shall except or trade in foreign money; nor shall any corporation outsource, work, jobs, employment or services outside of the United States.
a) No entity such as the likes of the Rothschild’s, Bilderberg Group, or any affiliations of such stature and demeanor shall have influence over the United States. Neither rules nor any authority as it relates to the United Nations shall have any effect on the Citizens of the United States that is repugnant to our Constitution, our way of life or our independence.
i) Corporate Lobbying is hereby illegal; No American corporation shall make political contributions whatsoever to any political campaign. Any person or entity which attempts to circumvent this clause by any means whatsoever shall be imprisoned for life without parole.
b) No product shall be sold in the United States that is not produced in the United States. The new country slogan shall be, “If It Is Not Made Here, It is Not Sold Here” Until Further Notice.
i) NAFTA is hereby abolished. All Trade Agreements shall be suspended until such time as an equal footing for America can be established. No foreign entity shall bid or partake in any work under contract or otherwise within the United States.
ii) Any American Corporation, Company, or Entity operating factories, manufacturing plants, or any other facility outside the United States which produces anything tangible whatsoever shall be closed forthwith; if any Corporation, company or entity operates any such facility outside the United States, which still maintains an entity in the United States, the responsible parties shall be punished by mandatory imprisonment for 100 years.
iii) From this day forward any act of aggression toward an American Citizen oversees or in any other country will be met with brutal and utter destruction. Any covert, overt, or aggressive act taken against the United States will be deemed an act of war and the perpetrating parties will immediately be destroyed. We will no longer tolerate terrorist acts directly or indirectly from any source. Nor shall we be made prisoners in our own country. The United States shall protect each and every citizen at all cost, no one citizen is expendable. Nor shall we send our solders to die were we can send other means of destruction. Foot solders shall be a means of last resort.
iv) Effective immediately, all military bases outside the United States are hereby closed; The United States shall no longer be the parent to the Globe or influence other counties policies. All other countries shall be left to their own devises and no longer will America go to war to preserve democracy. It shall be each countries duty to ensure peace and prosperity for its people, not the United States. Our efforts have gone unappreciated far too long. We have saved many countries many times and those same countries conspire to harm our Nation. No longer shall such hypocrisy exist within our Country. We will no longer be influenced by foreign money or Governments. The United States shall preserve its military and its might for the use of the protection of American citizens and American interest. Satellite Nuclear Missile and Defense Stations shall fly in orbit and shall be fully implemented to ensure the safety of our nation. In other words, the moneyed monopolies no longer have the protection of the United States and the wars they scheme to create will fall on deaf ears in America.
v) No American Citizen shall be forced to forfeit their freedom or their constitutionally protected rights in the face of safety. If we adhere to the philosophy that our freedom must suffer for safety, we then deserve neither. There is no compromise. Our Constitutional Rights shall be restored. We will profile people at our airports and our boarders and no American Citizen shall be subject to a violation of their Fourth Amendment rights to be secure in their person, houses, papers and effects; Period. Any terrorist found within our boarders will be shot immediately. He or she shall be taken out of the view of the public and immediately executed. Their bodies shall be burned and discarded as trash.
Further, any would-be terrorist who would harm America or one of its citizens shall seal the fate of their entire family. We will send a team of assassins to kill your entire family and if any country stands in the way of that end, they shall suffer the same fate. This is war and the only way to affect a positive outcome is for America to be brutal as or more brutal than the enemy we face. Our Nation has become week because of greed and week-hearted leaders.
Section 3) No Illegal Alien shall work in the United States, no person, company, corporation or any entity shall hire Illegal Aliens (non-citizens); the penalty for violation of this clause shall be punishable by the forfeiture of all monetary possessions of the guilty parties and be sentenced to mandatory imprisonment for 50 years.
i) No Illegal Alien shall be permitted to attend any school, collect or be given any financial aid, or be granted any resource whatsoever from the United States or any State therein.
ii) No Hospital or medical facility shall render any medical attention emergency or otherwise, to an Illegal Alien;
iii) No hospital or medical facility shall render any medical attention emergency or otherwise Treat any woman who has entered the United States under any Visa whatsoever who may be pregnant unless it is an actual emergency, and if a child is born in such circumstances to a non-citizen, that child will not be a citizen of the United States of America. A review shall be conducted and any woman, who came to the United States in the past 25 years under any visa whatsoever, had a child while in the United States, that child’s citizenship shall be revoked forthwith. If that child has entered the United States, and has brought any other person here, they shall all be deported and if any such person obtained citizenship, that persons citizenship shall also be revoked and said person shall be deported.
A) No Visa of any type shall issue to any foreign woman if she is more than Three months pregnant.
B) All Illegal aliens shall be rounded up and deported. There shall be new laws written to afford immigrants a swift and smooth transition into the United States as it relates to work Visas and citizenship if such persons meet certain admittance criterion. No person shall be admitted to the United States unless it can contribute to the betterment of the Country. No person shall be allowed into the United States if they pose a detriment to our country or our resources.
C) All illegal aliens imprisoned within the United States shall be deported forthwith; if such deportees ever try to reenter the United States again they shall be shot on sight, they are not citizens therefore not entitled to our Constitutional protects, therefore no trial will be afforded. Further, any illegal aliens that are imprisoned for murder shall be executed and not deported. Any person not being a citizen, crosses our boarders shall be shot on sight. The use of deadly force on our boarders is now in effect. Invade our country at your own peril. A legal path into this country is provided, do not circumvent that process.
Section 4) In accord with the United States Constitution, Article II. Section I., No person shall run for the office of President of the United States until first proving beyond any doubt as to their Natural Born Citizenship. The Supreme Court of the United States shall investigate and Vet any candidate for Presidency as it relates to a person’s status as a citizen and shall make public the facts relied on and their findings no later the 30 days whence such candidate shall have made their Presidential run Noticed. If the Supreme Court cannot determine unequivocally that such person is a natural born citizen, then that person shall not be allowed to run. If that person has made the assertion he/she is a natural born citizen and it is determined he/she is not, that person shall be sentenced to mandatory life imprisonment without parole.
Section 5) There shall never be sharia law introduced in the United States of America, nor shall any consideration be given thereof, in any Court under any Jurisdiction under any circumstance in the United States of America. There is one Law; the Supreme Law of the United States is the United States Constitution. No foreign law shall influence nor shall any judge in any court in the United States ever consider a law from a foreign source. It shall be unlawful for any Judge or any court official whatsoever, to consider, ponder, make reference to, or otherwise use a foreign source of law to influence its judgment, to create case law, or to pervert the laws of the United States of America. In America, American Jurisprudence is the only applicable law.
Section 6) The United States shall be free from all oil products; in ten years from the enactment of this Bill, all homes and vehicles and any other product which relies on oil shall cease to exist with in the United States. We have the technology to be free from fossil fuels and we will be. Natural gas shall be the norm for home fuel and shall be regulated by the government so there will never be gouging or that natural gas becomes unaffordable for the average citizen. Nuclear, Wind and solar shall also be available for energy. In two years from the enactment of this Bill, all auto makers shall have in full production, vehicles completely free from oil products. The cost for this transformation shall be born from both private and government coffers. An equitable solution shall be provided. Nor shall any job be lost; in fact, our new sources of energy shall create new job growth in America because its only source shall be from America. No outside corporations, companies or entities shall participate in the restructuring of American energy.
Section 7) This Bill reasserts America’s sovereignty as an independent Nation, ruled not, by anyone or entity other than the People of United States of America.
Section 8) This Bill Purposefully flies in the Face of Globalization and is meant to preserve our Nation and the Citizens within; It further ensures and demonstrates our Rights to Life, Liberty, and pursuit of Happiness are not mere words, without meaning, they are our God Given Rights and they shall not be abridged, taken from us, or further circumvented by treasonous acts of the very people who have sworn to abide by and uphold the United States Constitution. Corruption has nullified our Constitution and the protections it affords us and our Constitution Shall be restored.
Section 9) We are Christian-Judeo society and this Nation shall not be change to suit those who come here with the hope and desire to change or influence our way of life as to negatively and adversely affect our nation. All persons that come to America come here to be an American, not to change our Nation to suit that person’s way of Life. All persons are free to worship any way they see fit, however, no person or entity will adversely affect our Christian Judeo society or corrupt its philosophies. Somewhere along the line, those in power have forgotten where their power comes from and that this is America, no one shall circumvent or corrupt our way of life. If you do not like it here, then you are free to leave as you entered of your own accorded;
Section 10) Our leaders have allowed the perversion of our Nation through pervasive corruption and it is time to restore America to the American Citizen. The House and Congress shall represent the will of the people and only the will of the United States Citizens.
Section 11) Neither President nor Congress shall pledge United States currency to any nation, nor shall either pledge any resource from the United States to any foreign country or entity for any reason whatsoever until such time as America is debt free and America has a stable economy and all Americans are financially secure and the unemployment rate is below 3 %.
Section 12) The George Soros of this Country and his Ilk shall be rooted out and deported as a threat to America and their acts deemed treasonous and harmful to our Nation.
Section 13) The United States Constitution of America is exactly that, and is not applicable around the Globe or to anyone other than a United States Citizen and the only people protected under that umbrella is American Citizens. When the globe want’s to adopt our way of life and Our Constitution, then by all means we shall give full faith and credit to those who have adopted our Constitution.
Section 14) If our Representatives and Senators wish to advocate for the Aristocracy, so be it, however, all Statutes and regulations as it relates to the Financial Industry and this includes American Corporations, are hereby abolished forthwith; a contingent of Middle Class Citizen shall sit with the House and Congress and create new laws in which the United States Citizen has an equal footing, the new investment will have its focus on America, not the Globe. No longer will any law tilt against the American Citizen. The title for the group of citizens shall be called, “The American Citizens Coalition in Congress”. No law will be enacted without the consent of the “Coalition”. The House and Congress have demonstrated time after time that they do not represent the people of this Great Nation and you will be reined in and curtailed.
Section 15) This Bill becomes effective 91 days from its enactment.

I am just an uneducated crash dummy and clearly could use the assistance of counsel to properly draft a legitimate Bill and welcome any and all assistance, however:
I have started what I think would be an effective change in the way this country does business and how it conducts our interest throughout the Globe without our consent and the complete disregard for the welfare of citizens in this country. Feel free to comment.
These few paragraphs would dramatically change our country and in no time have us restored to a quality of life we once knew. I am sure my musings will have some opposition from the progressives, the banking industry and some of corporate America; however, it is my humble opinion that their very mindset has had debilitating effects on our country.
Further, I am a charitable person, but to an extent, our charity has been taken as a sign of weakness and people have been taking advantage of our good nature far too long. Charity begins at home and right now our Home needs our attention. The plight of the American people is most important right now, nothing else. When this country is healthy again, surely we can resume our charitable roll around the globe; but I will be dammed if while American Citizens are going hungry, cannot pay their bills because of unemployment, millions of Americans are losing their homes to the carpet baggers of old, the Banks, the jobs have all dried up because corporate America has sent all the jobs oversees while Americans are starving in the streets, then something drastic has to be done, and in my opinion, this is a good start.
Our Politicians continue to squander our recourses around the globe, while American Citizens are starving in the streets of America. Where’s the relief aid for the American citizen; is it not our tax dollars they so generously give to the Globe while we starve as they satisfy their self-serving interest with our money and goods. We are not governed by the consent of the people, our politicians are controlled by the Autocrats, and mark my words, in another ten years we will be completely, a Socialist Nation. We will forever be Slaves to corporate America and the central bank.
The private corporation that is the Federal Reserve System does not benefit middle class America nor has it since its ill-conceived beginning in 1913. The Bankers have destroyed our nation, and they were responsible for the destruction of this nation in the 1920’s. The same Ponzi scheme that destroyed our country then has destroyed it once again. The Securitizations and the creation of mortgage backed securities was a driving force which collapsed our economy then and now; Read your history. The Glass Steagall Act of 1934 was a preventive measure to protect the populous from these same bloodsuckers.
To understand the scheme that has destroyed not only this Nation but every Nation which made an investment in Wall Street as it relates to Mortgage Backed Securities, you have to understand that the Mortgage Electronic Registration System (MERS), the abolishment of the Glass Act 1934, and the enactment of the Gramm, Leach, Bliley 1999 Act all took place contemporaneously, had they not, these criminals would not have been able or allowed to destroy this Nation. If these steps were thwarted by our representatives, we would not be where we are right now. However, our representatives were coconspirators in this scheme.
We are being financially drained and destroyed by the elements listed above, it has to stop, and here is a way to do that.
We have been sold out Americans and it is time to make a serious change. This is not about any one person; this is about the preservation of our Country, our Independence and our way of life for our children of which I have five.
We were not afforded a bail out by Congress or the FED, yet some of the very people responsible for the destruction of our economy and this country were bailed out instead of being sent to prison. I will not delve here because I could write a novel about that scheme. However, through the rape and pillaging of the American citizen, corporate America has broken a record as it relates to earnings in the past 60 years.
The rank and file of the poor is quickly multiplying by the thousands and Millions of families are being forced out of their foreclosed homes, but American companies have just experienced their most profitable quarter ever. As The Times just reported, U.S. firms earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the third quarter, the highest total since the government began keeping track more than six decades ago.
What’s wrong with this picture; while 50 million Americans are on Food Stamps, The Monarchy gets richer and the Minions poorer!
The Unemployment rate is much higher than the government might have you believe, if a sixth of the populous is on food stamps, then what is the true unemployment rate? Do not be fooled or deceived.
This Bill will be posted on the World Wide Web along with a petition for signatures. Once I feel we have enough signatures, I will send this to every Representative and Senator in this country including the President.
I have spoken too so many of the younger generation and I am very disturbed to find that our children are no longer taught, among others things, about the United States Constitution, nor are they made to read the Federalist Papers. The scheme here is to disenfranchise the young American from these documents and our way of life to allow a global unification and this process transpiring every single day here in America. Our children have no sense of patriotism or our independence and this is being accomplished by design.
It is time to take back our Nation; if we wait any longer, it will surely be too late. There are not many of us left and once our generation is gone our children will be doomed to servitude if we continue to stand by and do nothing. This will be the true crime, because when good people stand by and do nothing in the face of tyranny that is the true crime.
You either stand for something or you will stand for anything. I for one will no longer stand for what is currently transpiring in our Country.
Join me; Unite and restore this once great Nation. Help me fix our Country because it is surely broken.
Tyranny abounds us but we have been blinded and brainwashed so that we may not see the evil which presently exist within our Nation.
I find it repugnant that our representatives send Billions of Dollars in aid every year all over the globe while we starve;
I find it repugnant that our representatives are trying to make millions of illegal aliens legal through the Dream Act;
I find it repugnant that our representatives have not stopped the outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations;
I find it repugnant that our representatives have not secured our boarders;
I find it repugnant that there are those who would like to take our Flag down;
I find it repugnant our children cannot recite the Pledge of Allegiance under GOD;
I find it very repugnant that our civil liberties must suffer in the face of political correctness;
I find it very repugnant that Congress has not ratified emergency legislation to stop all foreclosures in this country in light of the fact the very entities responsible for the crisis are the ones foreclosing.
“When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness”.
If you feel as I do then be not afraid, sign the petition. In the immortal words of Patrick Henry, “Give me Liberty or Give me Death”. Stand up and fight for your families and yourselves.
I for one will no longer be a slave to the Aristocrats nor shall I be oppressed by them.
Let the Revolution begin here with me. I would rather die fighting than live the way I am right now. I have never felt so oppressed in my Life or been so worried about my Children and their future.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees you the Right to petition the government for a redress of Grievance.
As an American Citizen you are duty bound to Sign this Bill and take back our Country.
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Jeffreydan » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:07 am


While I appreciate your creating your own thread instead of hijacking someone else's, I have to ask you to avoid exceedingly long posts. The above three, especially the most recent behemoth, are textbook examples of that.
One can make his point(s) just as effectively while keeping it simple & concise.

And as I learned first-hand not too long ago, words like "urinate" or "pee" are more acceptable than the one you used above.

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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Bob1958 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:17 am

I apologize for such a long post; however it was as short as I could make it. You thing this is long? Have you ever read a Bill? Take the Health Care Bill; I stopped reading it once it exceeded 1200 pages. The Dodd-Frank Bill is over 800 pages. I penned a ten page Bill that will correct the ills of this country. I apologize for the word **** but that’s how the saying goes. I posted for some feedback from some of the best and brightest so tell me what you think. I have taken the time and energy to effect a change and would like people to show me where I am wrong. I have sent my musings to my reps.
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Jeffreydan » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:25 am

Bob1958 wrote:Jeffreydan:
I apologize for such a long post; however it was as short as I could make it. You thing this is long?
No, I don't think it was long. I know it was long; if that is in fact the shortest you can make it, then you'll have to find someone to edit it down before it gets posted here.
Bob1958 wrote:Have you ever read a Bill? Take the Health Care Bill; I stopped reading it once it exceeded 1200 pages. The Dodd-Frank Bill is over 800 pages.
Not being as wordy as a congressional bill is not exactly a selling point. If my wife has an issue with my cussing around our young daughter, she won't suddenly accept it if I tell her I use less profanity than a Tarantino movie.
Bob1958 wrote:I apologize for the word **** but that’s how the saying goes.
"Pee" can be used in its place (as I've heard it) and be quite effecive, just so you know.
Bob1958 wrote:I posted for some feedback from some of the best and brightest so tell me what you think. I have taken the time and energy to effect a change and would like people to show me where I am wrong. I have sent my musings to my reps.
Thank you

A great way to get feedback is to keep people interested in what you have to say. People will lose interest, or not care to read it at all, if it's jaw-droppingly long.

Your method seems a lot like another poster's we used to have around here. To what "reps" are you referring? Are you in some way representing or assisting an organization/group/party/etc.? If so, which one?
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby We the PEOPLE » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:58 pm

It's beyond rhetoric...

I really enjoy your comments Bernie but I would suggest someone, maybe even yourself, really stepping up and "finally" draw a deeply identifiable line in the sand...

Most of us little guys, no matter how much or how hard we want to fight, are limited by position and lack of exposure...

My country, your country, OUR COUNTRY, is in horrible trouble...

You name it...from social or class warfare, to illegal immigration, to Obama and his radical socialist agenda, oh, and don't forget that little thing called TERRORISM...we're all in serious jeopardy of one day not being able to draw that deep line...

PLEASE, Mr. Goldberg...think about being that one man....that real man that stands up and fights for all us Americans that have not been blessed with the position or exposure to deliver the stance needed to save our democracy...

God bless you all, and God bless our great country...
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby eyeobject » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:37 pm

I actually liked your post--a sweet recap of political economics 101.

...But the real solution to our problem, in the immortal words of R. Lee Ermey: "Why don't we chug on over to mamby pamby land and maybe we can find some self-confidence for you, you jack-wagon!"
I think I may have discovered the basis of the difference between the opposing ends of the U.S. Political spectrum. One end seeks to learn more about themselves by studying God. The other end prefers to learn more about themselves by studying Apes.
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Ronwald027 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:13 am

William Randolph Hearst became fabulously rich (I refuse to use the word "filthy") selling newspapers. People weren't compelled to buy them anymore that they're compelled to buy a microsoft product. But, voluntarily buy them they did. He enjoyed this wealth for about 50 years. Had he sold his papers at cost, without making a nickel of profit, all of those who bought the papers would have saved a few cents. Instead Hearst made a profit and with it built Hearst castle and preserved important pieces of art, which at the end of his life, he gave back to the people who bought his papers. I wonder if he had just charged for the cost of the paper, and nothing more, whether the people benefiting from a cheap paper would have pooled their savings and built something like Hearst Castle and preserved the artwork. Thank God for the wealthy.
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby flyphish56 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:28 am

I'm in complete agreement with Ronwald on this. Wealth is not an evil thing. Wealth is what provides the rest of us with incomes.
Wealth makes it possible for medical inovation.
Wealth pays the way for scientists to discover the wonders of our universe.
Wealth pays for our universities.
Poverty creates nothing and poor folks hire no one.
Without wealth the liberal/progessives would have no one to hate and would have no one to steal from and would really have no reason to exist.
Wealth(not greed) is good!
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Re: Sick of the Rhetoric

Unread postby Odin » Mon May 02, 2011 7:54 pm

I think I may have discovered the basis of the difference between the opposing ends of the U.S. Political spectrum. One end seeks to learn more about themselves by studying God. The other end prefers to learn more about themselves by studying Apes.

Yes. One end believes in Happily Ever After fairy tales and the other believes in reality.
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